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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Fair enough.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am pre-empting a bit.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Apologies.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I will do so because the submissions raise some pretty serious questions. They have been put in the public domain. The royalties and residuals are shocking and outrageous. They have publicly made the case strongly that the contracts and conditions of employment for people working on film productions here are significantly worse than in Britain, for example. That is very serious. We will...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Yes, the Screen Guilds of Ireland, the contractors. That is who will draw up the list. That is a problem because the allegation made is that the contractors hire and fire who they want.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Sure. I have read it but the questions are how you get on that database and also concern the tracking of trainees. They have been designating people as trainees on films for yonks. That does not tell me anything has changed. They can put a document in stating they have a certain number of trainees. The big question is whether any of those trainees are working on the next production. Do...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: That would first require a qualification standard and a pathway, which I am pretty sure do not exist. At which point does someone become a props master or a set painter?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I understand.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Can I make an obvious point? There is a problem with that. The big film producers might be a year or 18 months between big productions. When people are laid off at the end of a film production and the same production company makes a new film with a new DAC, the old DAC has expired. If someone does not get employed 18 months later, it is too late to take a case. The DAC under which that...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: These are precisely the issues that need to be discussed. People acquire through the operation of law a contract of indefinite duration when they work a certain amount of time over a certain period for a particular employer. The difficulty in this situation occurs when those cases are taken and the employees go in. Every time, without exception, as we can see from the transcripts of...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Nobody is suggesting that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am running out of time. The Government needs to make a decision on this issue and stop batting it back to the WRC. The latter does not know what to do with it. Somebody needs to clarify the situation. The relief is given out with a purpose, which is to support the industry, create a permanent pool of skilled employees and create employment. The Government, using public money, is trying...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Inter-group transactions.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Mr. Carey might refresh my memory. Is that the list where some of the recipients have, beside the name of the producer company, figures between €10 million and €30 million? It is slightly alarming that we are giving this company somewhere between €10 million and €30 million.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am glad to hear that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: But we cannot see them.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I find that problematic, although I do not know whether Revenue is bound by certain rules here. This DAC thing drives me around the twist. How is anybody supposed to know? We will get on to the Equity issue next week, and our guests will have read the submission. One phrase that strikes me - people do not use phrases for nothing - refers to depressed income strategies and internal...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I think it is referred to as being a risk.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I have a couple of quick points and they will genuinely be quick. I know this has been explained but it does concern me that the inter-group transactions are up to €35 billion as a cost on the revenue table this year. That is up from €16 billion the year before and €12 billion the year before that, which is an enormous jump. I am a great fan of the Revenue's table, by...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Tax Expenditures Review: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Richard Boyd Barrett: The stamp duty inter-group transactions. On the face of it, in the table produced by Revenue, it is a cost to the people of €35 billion, having jumped from €16 billion the previous year. It is absolutely enormous.

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