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Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Faoi Ordú 62(3)(b), ba mhaith liom go dtógfaí an vóta ar bhealach eile seachas ar bhealach leictreonach.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Yes.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Yes, and I am setting out my reasons for doing so. This is a serious matter and I would like to know whether the Government has done the math in respect of it. Has it even considered whether it is disturbing the proportionality relating to membership of the committees or does it give a damn at all about that? What is being done sends out a very bad message and illustrates the dangers of...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: In such circumstances, I wish to propose an amendment to the Order of Business to the effect that No. 1 be deleted from today's Order of Business.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Further to what Senator Ivana Bacik said, the trouble with student unions doing anything like that is that the following year, a new regime comes in and might choose to do something entirely different.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I am glad to hear it. I find myself in happy agreement with Senator Bacik - shock, horror - on the subject of the need to defend the rights and dignity of cyclists. I am not as frequent a cyclist as the Senator, but I am trying. She makes an excellent spokesperson for the cause. I share Senator Darragh O'Brien's concerns regarding the proposal that No. 1, which overrules Standing Orders,...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Even though I understand this has not been tested in the courts, I would suggest it is an area in which they might well intervene if such misfeasance by parties were challenged. Perhaps of most relevance to us today is the question of the proportionalities that must be maintained in the membership of Oireachtas committees. This proposal would remove three former Government Senators from...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Suicidal feelings.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: It was said-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I am giving the Senator credit, not criticising him.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: The Senator should not jump all over me. The joint committee heard from the experts and Professor Kevin Malone, a suicide prevention expert, was extremely concerned with regard to the impact this would have, not just on women but on young men, particularly in the context of their mental health. Approximately 113 psychiatrists signed a statement indicating that they believe they are being...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: This is obviously the central issue in the entire debate. Senator Healy Eames has spoken very eloquently and I will not speak for very long. I was particularly taken by Senator Mooney's proposed amendment and it is a matter for him as to whether he presses it. Good care for a mother should always be and by definition has to be completely compatible with good care for her unborn child....

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I thank Senator Mary Ann O'Brien and echo what she has just said. Like her, I fully support, for the avoidance of doubt, the protections that sections 7 and 8 seek to confer. The issue has always been that if the absence of legal clarity up to now means legislation is needed to reassure doctors that what they are doing is protected, is that not as true where their actions unavoidably injure...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I did not say that

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: It is all about just one in 1,000 children dying.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: You are so simplistic.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: There is a real irony here. If I heard it once, I must have heard it a hundred times from Government spokespersons. I cannot remember if the Minister of State, Deputy White, said it, but I would be surprised if he did not. Part of the background to all this was a criticism by the late Mr. Justice Niall McCarthy that we had failed to legislate. The criticism was made in the X case. Now,...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I thank the Minister of State for his answer. I will reflect on it and study it carefully. The medical procedure is defined as including the prescribing by a medical practitioner of any drug or medical treatment. As was pointed out earlier, the legislation does not specifically mention abortion. It provides for the lawfulness of carrying out a medical procedure, including the provision of...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I am not. Amendment No. 19 is all about the question of whether we ought to widen the category of persons permitted to carry out procedures under section 7 to include non-obstetricians such as oncologists. Currently any relevant medical practitioner acting in accordance with current medical guidelines is protected by the law from criminal sanction under sections 58 and 59 of the Offences...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: No.

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