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Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: The issue of us turning around and restricting local lotteries is a fairly tenuous argument. What we are aiming to do here in amendment No. 12 is to deal with unregulated offshore companies which are providing this service where one can bet on the outcome of our lottery. There is no benefit to the State at all in people being allowed to bet on the outcome of our national lottery. None...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: While the Minister of State said that it is not within his remit, we are saying that any legislation is within the Government's remit, whether it be cross-departmental or not. What we are aiming to do is to make it a condition of the bookmaker's licence that they cannot offer that product.They cannot offer the ability to bet-----

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: One needs a licence to operate within the jurisdiction. Even if a company is outside the jurisdiction - and this is the result of being behind the curve regarding the Internet - and if it becomes a condition of a bookmaker's licence to operate within this jurisdiction, it cannot lay a bet on the outcome of the national lottery.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: Then they must be shut down. One can find anything online if one wants. A condition of a bookmaker's licence should be not to lay a bet on the outcome of our national lottery. We are adding this provision to the licensing requirements for bookmakers in order that they would no longer be allowed to do so. The Minister of State has pointed out that this does not come within his remit but as...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: Exactly.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: The intent is to address this because there is no benefit to the State.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: Following what Senator Buttimer said, there is no silver bullet, we all know that, but the fact that there are gambling machines in the airport in Las Vegas is down to a lack of regulation. If they are not there, people do not bet. If they were in Dublin Airport, would people use them? Of course they would, but the reason we do not allow them in Dublin Airport is that we do not want to...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: Yes.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: I move amendment No. 11:In page 16, between lines 16 and 17, to insert the following:“Report on prevalence of problem gambling 26. The Minister shall, within three months of the passing of this Act, prepare and lay before the Oireachtas a report on the prevalence of problem gambling in Ireland.”. We discussed this with regard to problem gambling and the Minister of State...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: We are on Committee Stage and we are not likely to get beyond that today. If this amendment is passed, it will put the Government on notice that it will have three months from the date on which this Bill is enacted, which is months away yet. We are setting a tight timeline. Much of the work, including the consultation with stakeholders, has started. The issue here is the setting of a...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: I am delighted to hear good news.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: I welcome the news that a survey is being done, or that there is talk about it being done.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: It will come out in 2020.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: Experienced Senators such as Senator Norris and I will be aware that there is no measurement of the outcome or impact of much of the legislation that is passed in this House. Such measurement should take place. According to an expression that is used in business, "If it is not being measured, it is not being done". We often fail to measure whether legislation that has been passed by this...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: To be clear, I am delighted with the good news. We all like to have something in writing, but I would prefer this measure to be included in legislation so that not only will promises be made in this House, but they will also be delivered on.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: For a man who was involved in a Seanad campaign, Senator Conway should know that someone's word is often not as good as it should be.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: I was not talking about him. I was talking about other people's word. As the Leas-Chathaoirleach knows, people's word is not always their bond when it comes to Seanad campaigns. That was my point. I know the Minister of State well from other areas. I fully take on board what he has promised and I am sure it will happen. I just want it provided for in legislation that, if he is moved...

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: -----the person who inherits his job will be forced to publish the report regardless of whether he or she wants to.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: That report is the one we want. We do not want another one. We are just trying to put in writing that it will happen.

Seanad: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (29 May 2019)

Mark Daly: I know, but the Minister of State should bear something in mind. I do not know which report on Seanad reform we are on at the moment. There is one thing about reports-----

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