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Seanad: An Bille um Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: An Cúigiú Céim - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Fifth Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: One thing I have learned, if I had not already learned it in recent weeks, is that we should be very grateful for the Constitution. It is the Constitution that can save us from the shallowness of our political leaders right now. I am thankful, in particular, for the McKenna judgment and the Coughlan judgment, specifically the former. When we hear people grumbling about the McKenna...

Seanad: An Bille um Dara Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Deireadh a chur le Seanad Éireann) 2013: An Cúigiú Céim - Thirty-second Amendment of the Constitution (Abolition of Seanad Éireann) Bill 2013: Fifth Stage (23 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: They took a proposal from the Taoiseach that we all know to have been a shallow one. It came only a wet week after he had talked up the merits of reforming the Seanad and giving it an enhanced role. The advisers, minders and people who deal in shallow populist ideas told him it would be a good idea to curry favour with the electorate by reducing the number of politicians. Interestingly, as...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: The more I listen to the Minister of State the more I am bemused about what type of amendments the Government would be interested in considering. It also seems to me that the job of the Legislature is to scrutinise legislation in detail and to propose substantive amendments, not just tinkering with technical points. The more I listened to the Minister of State, the more I felt that it is...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: -----which has been deemed to constitute - please listen - a real and substantial risk to life. I do not know if Senator GIlroy is aware, but the problem is that section 9 does not confine its operation to situations where suicidal ideation derives from mental illness.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: If it did so, medics would be on very safe ground because it could be easily demonstrated that abortion would be no treatment and could be highly counterproductive. In more general terms, we know in regard to those situations where a person has autonomy and is threatening their life, that one must always believe a threat of suicide. Senator Gilroy himself and the eminent experts in suicide...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Yes.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 8: In page 9, to delete lines 4 and 5 and substitute the following:“(b) that medical procedure is carried out at an appropriate institution by--(i) an obstetrician, or (ii) a medical practitioner of a medical speciality in respect of which he or she is registered in the Specialist Division of the register, and which is relevant to the care or treatment in respect...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I have another that complements it.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Yes.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Sadly, I am aware. Senator Harte needs to extend his compassion beyond his own family to those who will be affected by this legislation. The point is that there will be foreseeable situations where, at best, this legislation will involve bringing children into the world in circumstances in which they are premature, very sick and in danger of severe disability. We all know that any hospital...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 6: In page 8, line 34, and in page 9, line 1, to delete all words from and including “(being” in line 34 down to and including “practicable)” in line 1 of page 9 and substitute the following:“(being an opinion which respects the equal right to life of the unborn, and which has regard to the duty to deliver the viable unborn alive where...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Senator Harte has completely misunderstood what this amendment is about. Of course there are situations in emergencies where most doctors do their best.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Táim chun an leasú sin a tharraingt siar.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (Resumed) (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: On a point of order, the Senator is referring to Professor Singer.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: The Minister would.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: No.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: The Minister has no respect for life and this legislation proves it.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Some deserve to be denigrated.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Not in Britain, they do not.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Report Stage (22 Jul 2013)

Rónán Mullen: Virtuous in Britain? Nonsense. Qualified obstetricians in Britain are killing children.

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