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Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: I do understand that. It is a little bit daft that Government amendments are "late". I cannot remember how many months ago it is since we discussed this Bill in the House but I do think there was plenty of time. I would encourage the Minister of State to continue his reasonable line. If no consensus is reached here today, and if he feels the Bill should not be made a political football...

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: On a point of order-----

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: On a point of order, I must say that although I regard Senator Daly very highly, I believe there is cynicism on his part if he is suggesting that the Leas-Chathaoirleach of Seanad Éireann would not find Government amendments out of order because they clearly created a charge on the Exchequer. If such a move was attempted I and others in the House would point out that the Government...

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: I beg your pardon.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Can the Leas-Chathaoirleach confirm what Senator Daly is saying? If the Government puts forward amendments that create a charge-----

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: We were told they were late.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Will the Minister of State accept amendment No. 2?

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: The discussion on this amendment reinforces the idiotic and ludicrous situation that Seanad Éireann cannot create a charge on the Exchequer, yet the Government can use this House to create a charge on the Exchequer. That is lunacy, and it becomes worse when we realise that this is in our hands. I will make a direct appeal from this House to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges to...

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: It is ridiculous.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: I know.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Will the Senator give a commitment that his party's Members will raise this issue of creating a charge-----

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: -----in the committee?

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Good.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Let the record show that Fianna Fáil has given a commitment to examine at the Committee on Procedure and Privileges the question of creating a charge on the Exchequer. That is an important move.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: We are agreed on it.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: But we are agreed on it.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: If the Minister of State agreed with this, there would be consensus on it.

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Why will he not support it?

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: Here we go. Who is making a party political point now?

Seanad: Recognition of Irish Sign Language for the Deaf Community Bill 2016: Committee Stage (21 Jun 2017)

David Norris: I have written to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges asking it to reverse this decision. I am looking for support from every Member of the House.

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