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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I apologise for being late. Do the witnesses envisage a comprehensive package coming for young farmers? A whole-of-Europe approach to the decline in young farmers is probably required. Is it here or in Brussels that it will be handled? The Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine's definition of a young farmer is 40 years of age or under, whereas for Revenue it is 35 years when...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What about the forgotten farmers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I will clarify what I was saying. In the programme for Government, there is a commitment to liaise with Europe about this, and the Minister did that. The MEPs voted on something last Christmas and made it very clear that funding is now accessible for the category of farmers to whom I refer. I am surprised to hear Mr. Savage saying there remains a problem with the regulation that appears to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: If there is surplus money from the young farmers, can it be put into that? My understanding from the Commission is that it could be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Does Mr. Morrin envisage that will be sorted out under the new CAP?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Some of these guys who, unfortunately, got a herd number when they were young are now 38, 39 or 40, and do not fit into any category. Would it not be wise of us, if we are talking about keeping young farmers farming, to make sure that we give an opening to the forgotten farmers to farm rather than them having to pack up because of the payments they get?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Does the Department promote locally led projects? In fairness to the Department, for all the people who give out about it, the administration is fairly good. Moving to locally led projects involves bringing in consultants, and because of the cost of that, the farmer is the loser.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: In the designated areas there are a lot of restrictions on farmers, be it some of the mountains and even callows in the lowlands, where there is a designation under the so-called special areas of conservation, SACs, natural heritage areas, NHAs, special protection areas, SPAs, or whatever. Mr. Savage talked about the hen harriers. At the moment those farmers have to get approximately 36...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Yes, but there is no money in it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: They have been going on about two years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is anything being looked at in terms of Europe helping designated areas?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: That would be a bit extra, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: There is much talk about the definition of a farmer. Is there any danger, through no fault of their own, that the 50, 60 or 70-acre farmer who spends every day farming, including all weekend and four or five hours every evening, would lose out in terms of the definition of a farmer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Can a farmer who has entitlements and leases them on still get entitlements under the new CAP if he or she is not farming his or her land?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is there any danger that they could be pushed out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is there anything being considered in terms of someone on an off-farm income of, say, €250,000 a year still getting single farm payments? Will that continue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Can somebody on an off-farm income of, say, €250,000 or €500,000 a year still draw single farm payments whereas someone on an off-farm income of €20,000 or €30,000 and who might have only a few thousand euro of a single farm payment is struggling? Is anything being looked at in the overall context?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The taxation systems would not work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: In terms of what the Department is looking at, can it come down to €50,000 or €60,000?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (2 Jul 2019)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Am I right in saying that it would be 2027 before it would be back to €60,000. Is it fair to say that?

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