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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: In our letter to the appropriate body, whether that is the Valuation Office or the Accounting Officer for the Vote, we will seek information on the Valuation Office. We will ask for information on the revaluation programme and separately we will seek - not financial statements - an up to date information note on the position of the Valuation Office and how it is progressing. As part of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: How extensive is the note in its financial statement? From our point of view, we want to know directly from the university how that €750,000 is going to be funded and whether it will impact students and education services.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write directly to NUI Maynooth asking for full background as to how the loan was given out, what measures it put in place to make sure it was prudent to give the loan and, if it has not been paid back, the implications for the finances of the college.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Here we go again. It is an issue we will have to come back to. We will write to NUI Maynooth on that issue. The next item is the work programme. Today, we have the HSE and the Department of Health, and next week we have the NTMA financial statements. I want to get the agreement of the committee on the scheduling of the meeting next week. A big aspect of NTMA activity is the State...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is. On any other business, we have two small items to deal with in private session. The first is the periodic report. In order to publish our periodic report before the recess, we hope to launch it on 9 July, so we will have a brief discussion on that in private session. We will also discuss the IBRC meeting in private session and we can bring the summary of that back into public session.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have written to him.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. We will go into private session.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are meeting the Department of Health and the HSE this morning but before that, I have an announcement to make as Chair of the committee. Our committee intends to issue its next periodic report on Tuesday, 9 July. A document has been provided to some members of the media which has been quoted from and referred to as a draft periodic report. The document that has been issued is not a...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will proceed with the main business of today, the appropriation accounts for 2017 for Vote 38 for the Department of Health, the HSE financial statement for 2018 and chapter 16 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report on the accounts of the public services for 2017, which deals with the control of private patient activity in acute public hospitals. We are joined from the Department...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I invite Mr. Breslin to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Breslin. Mr. Reid may now make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The lead speaker today is Deputy Jonathan O'Brien, who will have 20 minutes. The second speaker, Deputy Marc MacSharry, has 15 minutes. Other speakers will have ten minutes each and will speak in the following sequence: Deputies Catherine Connolly, David Cullinane and Alan Kelly. I call Deputy Jonathan O'Brien.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Deputy MacSharry is next. He has 15 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Around lunchtime the Deputy will have a second opportunity.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Hospital management and hospital groups have been mentioned. What level is this report at?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy asked what has happened since the report was produced.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: But hospital groups were mentioned.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: In simple English, which is the best group for keeping people within their arrangement and which is the worst group?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Specifically.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2018
2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Department of Health
Chapter 16 - Control of Private Patient Activity in Acute Public Hospitals
(27 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We understand that. What can you send us in summary form to give us an indication of what is happening?

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