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Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: -----and take away whatever we feel we can to progress the petition afterwards. While we are talking about it, the witnesses have asked for the Minister for Health, the author of the HIQA report, the CEO of the UL Hospitals Group, the former clinical director of the UL Hospitals Group, the HSE representative, representatives from the Sláintecare implementation committee, union...

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I call Senator Gavan.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: We have a list of what we need to break down. We are not going to be able to answer the questions Ms McMahon is asking today. We need those people sitting where our guests are in order that the members can start putting the questions to them and they can give us the answers.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Does anyone want to respond to Deputy Buckley?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I am sure Ms McMahon has the full support of everybody on the committee with regard to the workers. They have the misfortune of being the people who get caught on the front line, as Ms McMahon said, in all situations right across the board.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Sorry, just before Deputy Devlin goes ahead, on 20 September 2022, the committee stated: The Joint Committee on Health will meet tomorrow, Wednesday, 21st September for a discussion on the serious issues raised in the HIQA report in relation to the Emergency Department at University Hospital Limerick at 9.30 a.m. in Committee Room 2". That is when it was heard there.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Yes, there was a referral by this committee. That is when it was referred.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Can I answer that? As far as I know-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: As far as I know, it is not political.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Does Deputy O’Donoghue want to come back in?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Deputy, every hospital in the country faces that.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I do not think-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I will stop you there, because I do not think either the committee or staff agrees. This clouds the problems that the witnesses are trying to highlight.

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: Do you wish to come back in, Deputy O'Donoghue?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I have just three quick questions myself before we finish up or before anybody else comes back in. We hear from the Ministers about the minor injury units, MIUs, and so on and that they would take the pressure off the emergency department. What feedback are the witnesses getting from people who cannot access the likes of them and who finish up in the emergency department in Limerick?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: If they were on a 24-7 basis, would it take pressure off?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: The witnesses have been asked about meeting various groups. Have they ever been offered any opportunity to discuss this with the likes of the Minister, the CEO and so on? Have those in power ever offered to sit down around a table with them?

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: So, from the health forum, that request-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: But no one outside of that forum who had known the witnesses were a group of concerned people ever made an offer-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Consideration of Public Petition to Reopen Ennis, Nenagh and St. John's Emergency Departments: Discussion (16 Nov 2023)

Martin Browne: I was going to come to that. It has been explained that we apologise as a committee and that it was an administrative error. The witnesses are here, and what we want to do going forward is cut down this list a bit that they gave us in order that we can get some of these people in and try to start to answer the questions the witnesses have asked of us. I am quite sure there are many other...

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