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Written Answers — Department of Defence: Defence Forces (21 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: 70. To ask the Taoiseach and Minister for Defence if he will report on his engagement with a group (details supplied) and their legal representatives; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [50706/23]

Written Answers — Department of Defence: Defence Forces (21 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: 73. To ask the Taoiseach and Minister for Defence when he will bring forward the Terms of Reference for the Statutory Inquiry arising out of the Report of the Independent Review Group; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [50707/23]

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome the witnesses. It is good to engage with them again. There are a number of items they have highlighted and about which the committee has asked to speak to them, and in my limited time I would like to focus on the appropriation accounts, specifically Vote 11. In note 6.2, there is a heading on EU funding and it goes on to outline the outturn for 2022 against the Estimate. Within...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It relates only to programmes, therefore, and not to infrastructure as well. Does it relate specifically to programmes run? The reason I ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Yes, it would be through the Department of Transport.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Fair enough. That is fine. In appendices A5 and A6, there are technical assistance costs for the regional assemblies and, below that, the special EU programmes body North and South programmes, both of which have underspent. Looking around at the members of this committee, I think we all spent time on local authorities prior to coming to the Oireachtas. For the regional assemblies, the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Not on their main remit, as it were.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Would that be the same for the North-South programmes?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: What would that entail?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is that PEACEPLUS?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Keeping with the programmes that are under the Department's remit, Mr. Moloney also highlighted the Ireland-United States educational fund. Is this purely funding that the Department contributes or is it involved in it as well? If so, how?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I thank Mr. Moloney for that. On Vote 39, the Government procurement section, I was taken with note 6 in the context of compensation and legal costs. Mr. Moloney outlines a number of cases in that, some of which the Department was successful in. I note that one of them was with the Court of Appeal in June 2022. Mr. Moloney goes on to outline the second case. Could Mr. Moloney provide...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Given the volume of contracts that the Department would be involved with through its various agencies and sections, how many cases per annum would it be contesting or dealing with on average?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I see. It landed with the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I mention this because I dealt with the Department when it came before the Committee of Public Accounts previously in respect of the relocation of Garda headquarters, if Mr. Moloney recalls, from Harcourt Street to its new premises. There was a lot of toing and froing, let me put it that way, in terms of trying to have the proper fit-out for the new headquarters, the contracts, etc. Where...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: It is clearly done now.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: That was found.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Is there any other outstanding issue with that move or with that transfer?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Deputy Ó Cathasaigh asked about the chief information officer. Obviously, there is a lot of interest in that from this committee. We have engaged with the HSE and other agencies. Has Mr. Moloney a figure of how many cybersecurity incidents there have been over the past 12 months?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 11 - Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 39 - Office of Government Procurement
Vote 43 - Office of the Government Chief Information Officer
2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 5: Vote Accounting and Budget Management
(16 Nov 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I understand that.

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