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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Why are they different from the 70,000 units that are currently permitted but not being built?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: The 70,000 units that are stuck in the planning system are all viable and, once planning permission is obtained, the industry will build them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: People who are not as immersed in the matter as us are wondering why the industry is complaining about the 70,000 stuck in the system, given that there are 70,000 already permitted. They believe the industry should build the first 70,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: If there are so many builders looking for work, send them this way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Every one of those 70,000 units is viable and would get built if planning permission was granted.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: The people the witnesses represent will be going back and submitting new applications on the many of the 70,000 that are extant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I get Ms Conaghan's point. However, at that stage, the board will have made its decision. Its decision-making process is complete under the law. The court then looks at whether it got to the decision through the right processes. Now we are saying that a decision has been made and that we are going to go back to the decision-maker to do something different and make the decision again....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I need to move on. We have taken the spotlight off the 70,000 extant permissions for a moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I get the climate challenge aspect and how we need to get involved. I have one question for Ms Doyle. She may not get time to answer but she might have to think about it. Who has sufficient interest in climate, environment and biodiversity? I think it is everybody.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Directly or indirectly, everybody is affected. If there is a development that will impact on water quality anywhere in this country, that indirectly impacts on me and on future generations. That is the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: The person who observes that vista every day will not be the person who will be deprived of ever enjoying that vista in the future.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: All right. It was just a thought. I call Deputy Gould.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: We are not going to have time for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Mr. Spain can go ahead. He has one minute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I need to interrupt Mr. Spain. If somebody takes six minutes to ask a question, I cannot give Mr. Spain more than a minute or two.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I come to my slot now. We have three people wishing to speak and about 18 minutes left. I will be really strict with everybody. The Office of the Planning Regulator, OPR, produced a report on the 146 judicial reviews and various outcomes - quashed, permitted, upheld. In how many of those 146 decisions would there have been a different outcome, had section 249 been in place? Has anybody...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: It certainly is. I can give one small example. Community Gardens Ireland contacted all of us over the weekend because a provision for the local authority development plan objectives to designate or identify places for allotments and community gardens was completely missed in this draft. It may not impact anybody present, but it does affect people who want community gardens and allotments....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: What about Wind Energy Ireland?

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