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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: I accept that. I have one more question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: How much did it cost to put that proposal forward?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: That is not what I am asking. I am asking about the proposal the OPW put forward that was rejected by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. How much did that cost?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: That proposal had nothing to do with the flooding or damage. The proposal cost €150,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does that include all the environmental studies and everything else?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will ask Ms Collier about Duncannon Fort. This week, €500,000 from the town and village renewal scheme was granted in the Vote. What is the proposal from the OPW? Strictly speaking, that €500,000 is to reinstate the building, which has experienced deterioration in recent years. We heard in March that the old Garda station in Wexford may be repurposed. I thought the site...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: That is the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Will Ms Collier come back to me on her interaction in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Ms Collier said the fort is in private ownership.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: What does Ms Collier mean by "privately owned"? Is it owned by a private individual?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Such a person owns the fort?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: That €500,000 is a lot of money but it is still nothing in comparison with what is required if we are to give value for money. Perhaps Ms Collier would come back to me on that point. I also asked about the Garda station in Wexford.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: That said, the Garda station has been empty since 2018.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: While appreciating it, Mr. Bourke must also appreciate the deterioration in the building structure, inside and outside, and its current value compared with when it might have been sold. How does it arise that we have a newly built, state-of-the-art Garda station that is not big enough, three years after its completion? How did that happen? It is being reported in Wexford that an extension...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Buckley mean a project for a new Garda station? Does Mr. O'Connor wish to come in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Is what has been reported in the newspapers incorrect?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Nobody in Wexford Garda station has asked for an extension.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: I will have to set that record straight. It has been widely reported that less than three years after the Garda station has been built, it is not big enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: Perhaps for the benefit of the committee, the officials could submit in the next week or so how many buildings we have on the books that should be sold, how long they have been on the books and an assessment as to whether they can be repurposed. It is always better to reuse than to build, particularly in this day and age. Perhaps they could make that submission to the committee. It might...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Verona Murphy: We also asked whether there was any obligation on the national lottery in regard to its welfare spend. Mr. Algeo could not tell us. We might ask the regulator whether there is an obligation for a minimum spend and, if so, what that figure is. Another point is that the regulator said there was a breach. When we asked Mr. Algeo if there were other breaches, he refused to answer other than...

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