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Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Have the numbers going into training increased?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: What figure needs to be hit?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: On a related question, are ambulances lying idle because of that shortage?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: If the workforce is being doubled, there is a shortage of ambulances and staff according to that. That would indicate we have just over half of the workforce we need. Either ambulances are lying idle or we do not have the number of ambulances we need.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: But the population might be double.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am just asking. I am trying to get a handle on whether we have a situation where we have vehicles but no staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is fine, but we need to double the number of staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Gloster might come back with a note on the primary care centre for Portlaoise. It has been long talked about. It is a capital town heading for a population of 30,000, which is a bigger population than Kilkenny City. It is one of the biggest county towns in the country and we have no primary care centre. I know there are challenges but where are we with that?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is good.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know. The population is expanding rapidly down there. According to the census, it is the fastest expansion outside of Dublin. I know and appreciate that. However, we do not seem to be able to get a primary care centre in place. It has been talked about.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not expect an answer on it today. There is also the Mountrath health centre. It has been recognised as constrained. The current site is not big enough. It cannot be reconfigured on that site. That is all being looked at, but where is that at the moment? What are the timelines for progress with that? Again, it is a town with an expanding population. I do not expect Mr. Gloster to...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not want to lose the opportunity to raise it with Mr. Gloster.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes. A lot of progress has been made, but there is a lot more to do. I thank Mr. Gloster for that. That concludes this session. I want to thank the witnesses, as well as the staff at the HSE and the Department, who prepared for today's meeting. I also want to thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff for their assistance. Is it agreed that the clerk to the committee will...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not mean to go back over the whole thing again.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is there alignment with the regional health areas?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: When are we likely to have them?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: What does that mean?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay, because as Mr. Gloster knows, community care and hospital regions do not align at the moment.

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