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Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: When was the Preferred Results report commissioned?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Surely the board must have given approval for this document to be drawn up if it was going to cost €130,000. It knew it was in the pipeline. Mr. Dollard is now telling me it was never actually discussed at the board per se. It was discussed at some workshop, somewhere.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did the board discuss that report?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Have we seen the minutes of that discussion or was there much recorded?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can Mr. Dollard get an extract of these minutes, please, and send them on to the committee? We are seeing this with more and more agencies. Mr Dollard is telling me that much work was done on the strategic plan in September and the autumn of that year. When did the board decide to prepare that strategic plan?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Who were the consultants who were helping to progress that plan, as I expect it was not done in-house by the board itself?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Who were they?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Those parties would have been paid for their work.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: What I am trying to get at here is that at the same time as the board had commissioned Preferred Results to do a report, which cost money, it also was paying other people to draw up a strategic plan. Mr. Dollard can see where I am going with this, as I just do not understand how the two are linked. Why were two independent consultancy processes ongoing at the same time?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Dollard gets my question.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: To quote from Mr. Dollard's opening remarks this morning, he stated substantial work was carried out in the latter part of 2017.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: It was ongoing simultaneously.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Even though the board dismissed the report as not being based on sound figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did that report meet the requirements of the terms of reference?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Leaving aside the dog pool analysis, if Bord na gCon is happy with the rest of the report why did it not go to the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: A year and a half later.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Smyth said earlier it would have been useful if the Department had it. They were his words. The annual amount from the fund is discussed in the Estimates and such a report would be relevant. All I will say is the Committee of Public Accounts believes it was relevant and had a useful purpose. I take it Bord na gCon paid the full amount for the report-----

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----even though it was not happy with it. I query this. Was a presentation made to the board, apart from the workshop?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon Financial Statement 2017 (19 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Right. Mr. Dollard can see I do not like it and what it is I am suggesting about the idea of two reports being done at the same time. Was the Department involved in drawing up the strategic plan? Was the Department involved in any of the workshops?

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