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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: We have to wait until it gets all the way to the grant of permission, consent and conditions. This puts people on the back foot because an application may not have been valid but a decision has been made and the only way to rectify it is judicial review.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: It is not necessarily about land ownership. It is about having the consent of the land owner to apply for planning permission or the applicant being the land owner. If a person ticks the box to the effect that he or she is the land owner, when quite clearly he or she is not, the application will have gone far beyond where you come back to this point and then maybe there can be a so-what...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: It would be very onerous on them but there should be an opportunity to question the validity of an application. I have gone off on a tangent from the questions I was going to ask.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I have a point on that for both groups. Will they briefly outline the engagement they have had? This process has been going on for 15 or 16 months.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I am sorry to interrupt Deputy Ó Broin's line of questioning. The RTPI might have something to add as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: We had engagement with the Department in the early days of this as well. We had about four meetings on development consent, forward planning, enforcement and planning authorities. I think those were the four headings we did it under. The process has been going on for quite a long time. This is the first edition of what will eventually end up as the 2023 planning and development Act, or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Again, section 48 comes up in the consenting stage-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: A page number would be helpful.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Regarding the development contributions, which are currently in sections 48 and 49, if we were to reinsert them as they are, are there changes the witnesses would make to those sections?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I read a book on a review of the planning system. It was written in 1983 and was a 20-year review of the 1963 Act. According to that, those in the construction industry were very unhappy about development.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Mr. Jones is saying sections 48 and 49 are missing from the draft Bill.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: On the land value capture or land value sharing on the newly zoned land, would Mr. Jones also apply sections 48 and 49 to developments built there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Are you not then paying on the double? Are you not paying for the benefit of zoning and then-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Yes, but I was not referring to the zoned land tax but to the land value sharing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: Does the RTPI have a view on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: That is reasonable. Deputy Higgins wishes to come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: To which proposed section did Mr. Jones refer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: I think we had a discussion in which we said not the fees for the public but to value the work the planners do, it should be reflected in the fees charged.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Planning and Development Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Feb 2023)

Steven Matthews: There are a lot more observations on the 99 than on the one-off rural house to consider as well.

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