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Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Yes, but it is absurd. It is not the kind of information on which a rational argument can be based, especially in light of the figures I have put on the record.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: It beggars belief that large numbers of people are applying to be joined by 70 family members. In any event, we can always refuse such requests. We can say "No, you are not having 70 family members with you; it is ridiculous". Of course it is ridiculous.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: The people making these decisions would say that. It is not as if we are completely without defences. We are not the eejits of Europe. I remind the Minister of State, in the context of his bellyaching about an application for 70 people to come here, that Germany has admitted 1 million people. I think the gross number we have admitted is a couple of hundred. God bless us and all the...

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: It is not a financial situation. There should be morality in this situation. I hope the Chair will allow me to say, as an aside, that I grieve for the fact that there seems to be so little regard for morality in public life these days.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I thank the Acting Chairman very much. There is no sense of morality in the banks. We need to take a stand here by showing that there is room for public morality in public life.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I was responding to the Minister of State.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I support the amendment.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I support the amendment. If Senator Kelleher allows it, I will second it so that it will be formally seconded. I support the amendment because the vote of the House is one thing but the implementation of the Bill is another. One way of effectively, although not legally, defeating the Bill would be to postpone, delay and procrastinate and to put it up on a shelf and forget about it. This...

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: That effectively makes the point that the Government would have long-fingered it.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Let the record show that the Minister of State winked.

Seanad: International Protection (Family Reunification) (Amendment) Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I congratulate Senator Higgins on introducing a new word to the English language - expedious.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Due to my eyesight, I cannot see the screen. Are we on amendment No. 10?

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I support the amendment and, if the proposer would like, will second it. It is important to take the question of children into account. In his opening remarks, the Minister adverted to the fact that there is a culture in Ireland where it is a rite of passage that young people are introduced to alcohol. It is perfectly normal and wonderful. Getting plastered is a big laugh and all the rest...

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I may be a bit slow on the uptake. Why can amendment No. 12 not be taken if amendment No. 11 is accepted? They both refer to an insertion after "18(1)," and amendment No. 12 proposes also inserting "19(4),". I do not see any great conflict. I seek clarification.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: Therefore, we can have both.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: So we can take amendment No. 12 as well.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I thank the Cathaoirleach for that clarification.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2017)

David Norris: I strongly support minimum alcohol pricing. I know it has been resisted, but it is extremely important. I live in a small privileged enclave in the poorest area of the city of Dublin. I see people going to the supermarket and buying slabs of beer for ridiculously low prices. It is completely outrageous. As I said earlier, the idea of grocery shops and supermarkets selling alcohol is...

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