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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: We will now go to questions and Senator Comyn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I call Deputy Ní Chuilinn. It is Senator Ní Chuilinn. I promoted her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: No. The only communication we got with regard to this was in this statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: It could be simple enough. In fairness, if it just came up, maybe this is the first opportunity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: The Senator has the communications.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: The Senator has them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: That is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: The Deputy might allow Mr. Falvey to answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I know exactly what Deputy Byrne is talking about. I remember it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I do not know what officials were in the Chamber with the Minister at the time. While we are here, can somebody go and find out? I do not want to have to come back to this again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: The witnesses might try to get us an answer while they are here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I find it strange that the witnesses do not know that. I call Deputy Brennan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: When Mr. Ó Coigligh said "that offer sooner", which offer was he referring to? Was he referring to the offer of the assistant principal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Try and find an IT person under that wage structure. Trust me-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I know it did but trying to find an appropriate one is difficult. I was there; I was that soldier. I am probably the only person inside here who was an IT manager.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: We dealt with this just before the Deputy came in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: Before Senator Ahearn comes in, I am looking for clarification on a matter. I did not want to interrupt Mr. Ó Coigligh. With regard to all contracts, was the former director in place or were some of the contracts not signed before that, from memory? In fairness, I did not want to be incorrect. I do not think that statement is totally accurate but not deliberately so. I want to be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: I thought that. I wanted to make that correction. Second, I am looking for another clarification. On the assistant principal posts, were there not two assistant principal posts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Alan Kelly: So there were two rather than one.

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