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Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: What was the final figure for last year?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Please.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Walsh mentioned Laois earlier. My heart warmed when he said there are 12 dentists in the scheme but there is not. My secretary spent some time ringing around different dental practices. We got lists from the HSE. Right enough, there would have been 12 dentists in the scheme at one stage but it is down to one and that dentist will not take on new patients. I am open to correction on...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: In the public system.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know it is a challenge.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is because DTSS has collapsed.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: We contacted them.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: When we phone them or a constituent contacts them, they will not take them. They are refusing to take them.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: The negotiations have concluded.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: What is the budget for CHO 8 for the DTSS?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is still a relatively small budget. What I hear is that we do not have a budget and projected outcomes. The system would seem to be a patchwork. There is a budget if people can get a service. However, what we are finding is that people cannot get the service because the private dentists are not doing it. The private dentists are providing a fairly good service. I am not knocking...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Not in Laois. There is a real problem with public dental health in counties Laois and Offaly. County Laois is on the floor. I do not say that to be parochial. I have to reflect what constituents tell me. The information I pick up from schools and parents is that it is not happening. Regarding the dental treatment service scheme, DTSS, scheme, I understand that there is a challenge. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is fair to say, as Mr. Gloster said, the extra 20% is there. The number of extra ones being treated needs to be looked at. Some figures have been given for that but the facts are that the DTSS scheme and the schools scheme will have to have a large public element as we move into Sláintecare. It is not working. I say to the management team here that they have to accept that this is...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is plenty of space for development-----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Along with moving the day care and the expansion that is taking up space at the moment for five or six beds, I have no argument with that in the short term because officials were looking at moving to other locations and greenfield sites-----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----brownfield sites and converting buildings.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Monasterevin closed and is still closed. I said on the day it closed nine years ago that it would stay closed. The problem is that when you take away a facility, it is hard to get it back there. Along with the day care centre and the six beds that would be generated by accommodation works, is there potential to increase the actual number of beds on the site?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it part of-----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Modular.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2023 (5 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Will Mr. Gloster give some commitment in relation to primary care? While it is a good service, the facilities are reduced and limited.

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