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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: He did not say that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: No. He said it can work concurrently but it could lead to delays-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: -----and it could take a year to fix the problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: However, the hospital is not even to be opened until when? The Minister does not even know. As the earliest date is March, obviously were the work to be started now, it would not delay the hospital by one year, so he did not say that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Oh, come on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I will respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I want to make this point and will finish on it, because the Minister has again tried to play the man instead of the ball. The Minister for Health has a project that has run out of control. We have now spent €1.7 billion on it. It may be more, depending on the sorting out of the claims. We were not the ones who appointed BAM. We are the ones who tried to bring in legislation in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I did not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I asked what is another million or tens of millions? The approach the Minister is taking is a hands-off approach.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: The Minister has done this so many times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I would like to make a concluding remark. There are people who were not here. I made it very clear that I was not calling into question the competence of the board. I made it clear that in relation to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: No, I have not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I said they are not experts in ventilation and I would not expect them to be. The question I have is: Did they get a report from experts to actually give them a price or a timeframe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Nobody would expect them to be experts in ventilation systems.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: You should be able to answer. I asked why you did not not ask them that. This is the problem. You are asleep at the wheel.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Secondment: Minister for Health (22 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: You should ask them that. You are the Minister for Health. These are fair questions. If I was Minister for Health, I would be asking them those questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Investment Funds (Resumed): Irish Mortgage Holders Organisation (21 Jun 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I thank Ms Irwin and Mr. Byrne. They are powerful advocates on behalf of themselves and their families and also on behalf of tens of thousands of people who are unfortunately in a similar position to them. There is a term that has now become more familiar to many people, which is mortgage prisoners. They are people who have been sold to the vulture funds who are not able to escape from...

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