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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: On not naming people, although people rarely object to being named if it is being done to hold them up as paragons of virtue,-----

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: -----I would still caution against it.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Of all workers?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: What we do know is that there were 850 cases of Covid-19 in 16 clusters in meat factories.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: We should perhaps move on to the next speaker.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Deputy Mairéad Farrell has ten minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Does this mean they were not entitled to the pandemic unemployment payment?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: A total of 855.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I would have thought they were not all from the meat industry. What other sectors were people in?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Ms McGinley. If I may, I will ask a couple of questions. Does Deputy O'Donoghue want to come back in? I was going to bring the Deputy in at the end but if he wants to come in now, he may go ahead.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I am coming back to this report by the European Federation of Food, Agriculture and Tourism Trade Unions that SIPTU contributed to. It states: Violations of workers' rights are more frequent in the red meat industry – as it is poorly organised. The situation is slightly better in the pork and poultry industry where the level of unionization is higher. SIPTU will try to increase...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: We have some time remaining. Returning to the issue of work permits, is it the case that it is not possible to get a work permit from within the country and that it is necessary to apply from outside Ireland? How does that work?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Let us take a person working for one meat factory who perhaps does not like his or her job or the employer does not like the him or her. If a worker who is a third-country national here on a work permit is let go or leaves a job, how is it then possible for him or her to go on to work for another company, in the same area or another area?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Is that provided for in law?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: It can be the employee.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: My apologies for interrupting Ms McGinley. I was curious about the difficulties in moving from one employment situation to another if a person is here on the basis of a work permit.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: We are almost out of time. If a person is here as an undocumented migrant, or without any lawful basis to be here, is it possible for him or her to apply for a work permit to regularise his or her situation?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: How long is it?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: We have a minute and a half and then we will conclude.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Meat Plants (10 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Thank you very much. We will suspend until 2.30 p.m.

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