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An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Overcrowding at Wexford General Hospital during the final months of 2022 and early this year meant that the hospital was completely overrun. The people of County Wexford were asked on several occasions to avoid attending the emergency department unless it was a life-or-death situation. Some patients who presented at the emergency department waited up to 30 hours if a bed was required....

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Departmental Schemes (25 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: 217. To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide an update on the Disabled Drivers Medical Board of Appeal; when the Board will be permitted to resume clinics/hearings; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19118/23]

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Schools Building Projects (25 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: 281. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if she will provide an update on the current status of an approved extension for a school (details supplied) to which a design team was appointed in January 2022; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [19572/23]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Covid-19 Pandemic Supports (25 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: 626. To ask the Minister for Health if employees of the Irish Wheelchair Association have been deemed eligible for the Covid-19 pandemic recognition payment; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19569/23]

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: On the previous occasion Mr. Makhlouf was to come before the committee, he gave us three days' notice of his non-attendance. Why such short notice?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: I was. I heard Mr. Makhlouf say it was regrettable.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: I did not hear why.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: By whom?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: We got three days' notice. When does Mr. Makhlouf say we should have received notice but did not? Who is responsible for not telling us?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Just to alert Mr. Makhlouf, I have ten minutes. Mr. Makhlouf said he thought we would be alerted much sooner. By whom?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Who in your office? Is it anybody who is with you?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: I understand that you take responsibility and so you should because it was absolutely disrespectful. The question I asked was why we only received three days' notice.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: That was an error.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Absolutely, other than thinking it was okay just to send in-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: It was very disrespectful.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Makhlouf is wrong again in that. It had not been identified verbally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is fine. Mr. Makhlouf is wrong twice. I want to go back to the initial meeting when we discussed the unauthorised transfer of €738 million. What is in place to ensure this will not happen again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Did not work.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is it as simple as that? Were there any repercussions? Was anyone held accountable or reprimanded? Some €730 million was transferred just like that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Chapter 14 - Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies (Resumed)
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021 (Resumed)
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer (Resumed)
(20 Apr 2023)

Verona Murphy: I know the process was changed. The question I asked was whether there were any repercussion for any employee. Clearly someone was responsible. We might not know who was supposed to advise the committee, other than Mr. Makhlouf, that he could not make it, but surely it is known who was responsible. I am asking specifically who was held accountable and what the repercussions were. I...

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