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Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 7: In page 10, line 20, to delete "Minister" and substitute "Board". This may be repetitious as we discussed some of this before. The issue is difficult because the Minister has made a genuine effort to listen and respond to what was said here on Committee Stage. However, there is genuine unease that the decision on the allocation of funds will be a political decision....

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: It is a fact that they were not followed.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Minister made a sincere and plausible case. I do not wish to get involved in an argument with him, but the truth is that if one looks at section 8, which we will come to later, the disbursement will not be decided by a system within the Department, it will be decided on the basis of a recommendation to Government which the Government may approve, with or without amendment. I have no...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 8: In page 11, lines 1 and 2, to delete "submit to the Minister" and substitute "approve". Question, "That the words proposed to be deleted stand", put and declared carried.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 9: In page 11, line 43, to delete "by the Minister". Question, "That the words proposed to be deleted stand", put and declared carried.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 11: In page 11, line 43, to delete "by the Minister". Question, "That the words proposed to be deleted stand", put and declared carried.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: As Senator McHugh stated, many issues are raised in the amendments and I look forward to hearing the Minister's response to them. When he addresses his own amendments, will he explain why we need the subsections of section 8 which form the new Part 6 of the original Act? Given his eloquent sincerity about the decentralisation of decision making, why does he propose to provide that the...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I second the amendment. There is nothing I could say to add to what Senator McHugh has said. He comes from a region which is a victim of the Stalinist centralisation of this country. Ireland is extraordinarily centralised. I have already discussed this issue with the current Minister. I do not know if it is the time of year, or my advancing years, but I am not in the humour I was before the...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 2: In page 5, between lines 5 and 6, to insert the following: "(a) to establish transparent criteria for the disbursement of funds under the Dormant Accounts Acts 2001 to 2004,". Is oth liom a rá nach ndúras é seo nuair a sheasas suas den chéad uair. Dúras leis an Aire go príobháideach é, ach ba mhaith liom é a rá go poiblí go bhfuil sé go breá a fheiscint go...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I should reprimand the Chair, but I will not. The Minister made a plausible case. As we will encounter these matters again, I see no point in pushing them any further. We will come back to it.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 4: In page 5, to delete lines 7 to 10 and substitute the following: "(a) to prepare, approve and carry out a plan for the disbursement of moneys under Part 6, in accordance with the criteria established by it,". While I am notorious for my sensitivities on the grouping of amendments, on this occasion I am agreeable. The amendments under discussion address the nub of the...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Perhaps I was a little premature in withdrawing my amendment. It will not be discussed now. I have no control over any of Senator McHugh's amendments——

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I normally understand procedure fully——

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Yes.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 5: In page 5, between lines 10 to 11, to insert the following: "(b) to prepare and approve detailed proposals for disbursement under the Dormant Accounts Acts 2001 to 2004,". I move this amendment to avoid complications. I welcome what the Minister said about the report of the dormant accounts board being discussed in the House and invite him to consider, not necessarily...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I welcome the amendment. As a matter of practice I am unhappy with the phrase, "the Minister's opinion", whenever it arises. The Minister's opinion is unchallengeable. He is entitled to his opinion. If the reference was to "the Minister's judgment" or "if the Minister was satisfied", it would be capable of some judicial test, although I am not suggesting one would want to do that, as to how...

Seanad: Order of Business. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I am beginning to be overwhelmed by the rash of conversions in recent weeks.

Seanad: Order of Business. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I support Senator Brian Hayes's view. I find it astonishing that we have not had a serious effort in this country to address questions of the quality of management of semi-State bodies that do not seem to be able to do their job. There seems to be a particular rush to judgment always that it must be the workers of a company who are not doing their job. In fact, there are serious questions...

Seanad: Death of Former Member: Expressions of Sympathy (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: It dawned on me this morning that, increasingly, I stand up here on these sad occasions to talk about people whose careers overlapped with my own, which to some extent brings intimations of mortality. It is always a privilege to pay tribute to people who have put so much of their lives into genuine altruistic public service. The account of John Francis Conlan's life given by Senator Brian...

Seanad: Tribunal of Inquiry into Certain Planning Matters and Payments Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (7 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: No one.

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