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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Is Ms McLoughlin-Burke on mute?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: There is an issue with Ms Loughlin-Burke's microphone. I might go to Mr. Condon for a reply. Ms McLoughlin-Burke might take a moment to organise her microphone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: No. There is a crackle on the line. I will go to Mr. Condon for a reply. It might take a moment to organise Ms McLoughlin-Burke's link.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I apologise for interrupting. Do we know where the noise is coming from? Can Ms McLoughlin-Burke mute her device? I thank her for that. The interference was coming from her end. It seems to have stopped now. She might be able to figure out what is going on while her device is muted and rejoin the meeting if she is able to sort it out. I will pass back to Mr. Condon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I will take this opportunity to make a point while we are waiting for Ms McLoughlin-Burke to come back in. In the ICCL's submission, to which Deputy Daly alluded, there are some interesting statistics which show that the Circuit Court and the District Court are the workhorses of the system, with the vast majority of cases going through them. If I understood the submission correctly, it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Please do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: That point is very well made, both in the ICCL's submission and in the contributions today. I thank Mr. Herrick for that response. I will move on to the next speaker. Apologies to Ms McLoughlin-Burke. Her microphone is playing havoc. This happens to all of us when we are on these sessions. It is a case of the perils of the demo. These things happen. Unfortunately, I will not be able...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Senator McDowell for his comments and his insights from his various roles. Some of the questions were addressed to Mr. Condon and he might take them first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I am sorry. The Deputy said she had six questions. She will certainly get to ask them and I applaud her at the outset. If nothing else, she has shown us that she is our in-house expert. I ask her to direct her questions through the Chair. I want to make sure that we keep a structure on our engagement. Certainly, the Deputy can come back in to put her questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: The Deputy can come back in. She asked two questions so she can certainly ask some more. Perhaps we will take those first. The questions were primarily directed to Mr. Herrick but Mr. Condon may have something to say as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Yes, although I want to allow Mr. Condon in again. Is this a follow-up question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Deputy Carroll MacNeill made the interesting observation that while international comparisons are very useful and can be very informative, they have to be comparable. There was a point about common law jurisdictions and advanced common law jurisdictions and these may not equate directly to other memberships of the various bodies. It was an interesting observation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Does Mr. Condon want to add to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Condon for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Yes. Go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Very good. I thank the Deputy for that point, which was well made. We will have a second round of questions if, that is, members have any other questions. We have already had a good and comprehensive engagement. There are 25 minutes remaining. We will have to wrap up then but we may not require that time. I will begin the second round of the questions. There will be some latitude...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Herrick for that respond. What does Mr. Condon say to that? Does he consider that regulation is in place or needs to be in place and what mitigation exists in respect of behaviour, both on and off the Bench, that may not be acceptable?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Very good. Can I clarify whether the Judicial Council covers all courts or only the superior courts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2020: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: Very good. I thank Mr. Condon. I am not sure if any of the members have raised their hands. We can have another round of questions if anybody wishes to come back in. Is anyone offering? We have covered the topic selected for today. I thank everybody. Some members have had to leave to attend functions and commitments. Over the course of the afternoon we have had a very strong...

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: Research and Development (3 Jun 2021)

James Lawless: 59. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the initiatives his Department is taking in the area of artificial intelligence; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [30042/21]

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