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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Yes, you are but you may come in at the end. There will be a bit of excess time.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: The next speaker is from Fianna Fáil. Deputy McAuliffe has ten minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: The next speaker is Deputy Shortall. A number of speakers are not coming today so the Deputy may take ten minutes if she wishes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: If there is any time at the end I will bring back in Deputy Shortall. I call Deputy Bríd Smith.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Sloyan and Deputy Bríd Smith.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank the Deputy. His comments are noted.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Woods has said he will provide a written reply to Deputy O'Donoghue. The next speaker is Deputy Colm Burke.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Was the Deputy refused access to the waiting list data because they were a part of the deliberative process?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I can hear the full story afterwards. I am anxious that we-----

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Woods has now said he will give the data to the committee.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I want to ask a couple of questions and Deputy Shortall wants to come back in. IMO representatives before the committee this morning called for a total vaccination programme. They said that 75% of the population would need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. They explained what they meant by a total vaccination programme. It means that everybody has a vaccination that is free to...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Is "No" the hard answer to my question?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I have never taken a flu vaccine before but we live in extraordinary times. Can I take it that there are no plans to introduce a vaccination programme for ordinary people who are not healthcare workers, do not have an underlying condition, are not normally recommended to take the flu vaccine and are not children?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I will ask specifically. Are there no plans for a vaccination programme for the general population who are not in the target group?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Is "No" the answer to my question? There are no plans for a vaccination programme for the general population outside of the-----

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I sometimes wonder how it takes two minutes to answer one question. I sometimes wonder whether these meetings are exercises in information provision or obfuscation. I am sorry to say that but it is sometimes difficult to get answers to simple questions. We have been told repeatedly that once the flu season kicks off, whether it will be in September or December this year, there is potential...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Notwithstanding that, there are no plans to vaccinate the general population.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: I appreciate that.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Is it hard to get flu vaccine? Is availability of flu vaccine a difficulty that the HSE faces?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Non-Covid Healthcare Disruption: Waiting Lists and Screening (Resumed) (17 Jul 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. McCallion seemed to indicate that there was. Could he elaborate a little? Is it difficult to get flu vaccine in unusually high quantities? I accept that 75% of the population would be three to four times the quantity the HSE would normally buy. Is flu vaccine typically unavailable in that quantity or is there a difficulty in sourcing it?

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