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Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: European Year of Youth: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It is about doing those pieces of work that will bring them closer to that point where they are open to it. It is a big body of work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: European Year of Youth: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept all of what Mr. McNulty said. It is a great benefit to anybody. I have seen the fabulous work that is being done by the likes of NYCI and others. However, I would also say that sometimes they get the low hanging fruit, for want of a better term. It is those who are engaged and who are coming from engaged families. There is a bigger piece of work that needs to be done. In...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: In fairness, the Chairman has dealt with a fair amount of the questions I may have had.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It would be a first, if I did. Am I right in saying that ComReg has not seen the legislation at this stage? It has obviously been involved in a significant amount of engagement, but has it seen the legislation? No. When I came in to the meeting, I had in mind to ask one question, namely, whether this legislation is going to be good enough. To a degree, that question has been answered....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: So, it bypasses what previously would have gone through the court system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Obviously, even though the procedure will need to be fair, ComReg will be able to do this in a timely manner, unless there are obstacles that we cannot foresee in the legislation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Of course. I think we all accept that there needs to be fairness.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Yes. We do not want to be pushing cases through what is an already clogged court system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: All of that makes sense. There should not be any obstacles in this legislation in relation to how ComReg operates. It needs to see-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Obviously, the Department has the intent of delivering on this. It is just about making sure that we get that added information if anything has changed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is brilliant. ComReg is going to have greater powers, such as "a broadened information gathering power, ability to reuse already gathered information, ability to better assist the Minister with policy making and improvements to the notification, privilege and overcharging provisions." What is that extra power exactly in relation to how ComReg is handling the information?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That makes complete sense. Mr. Mourik talked about other legislation and secondary legislation that will be passed to give ComReg greater powers. I ask Mr. Mourik to outline them. I will leave my other questions for the moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Are we playing 20 questions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: In fairness, the Chairman got to the crux of the matter. In fairness to ComReg, when its representatives were previously before the committee, they said they did not have the tools required to do business, to do right by the consumer and to put pressure on mobile phone providers and others. We hope this legislation will provide those tools. We have a piece of work to do in that regard. ...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is fair enough.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: There is then a counter strategy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Does it also deal with international stakeholders?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept that. I understand ComReg has to keep watching the situation. Could the committee at some stage get a private briefing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I apologise but was the concern with that one that it would overload the system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Communications Regulation (Enforcement) Bill: Discussion (23 Feb 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: We might have gone off on a tangent, but sometimes that can be very useful. Can we deal with the National Cyber Security Centre, NCSC? Obviously, it became an overnight sensation after the attack on the HSE. Every expert we spoke to who came before this committee and in other fora stated that they did not believe the NCSC had the resources that were required. We have seen a reasonable...

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