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Business of Dáil (6 Apr 2016)

John Deasy: A Ceann Comhairle, what are we doing here?

Business of Dáil (6 Apr 2016)

John Deasy: There has to be a limit to this.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: What about Tom Galvin, the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine? To remind the Chairman, the last note we got was from the Department, which stated that it would be corresponding with the committee very shortly, so we still have nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Did it tell the Clerk when the draft report would be done?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: On housekeeping matters, I wish to ask the witnesses from the Department of Health what it is they do in the Department. Can they tell us what their positions are?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Thank you very much. I presume that committee members will want to ask questions after me, so I will go ahead, and I might speak again afterwards, once everyone else is done. I thank Mr. O'Brien and his officials for coming in today. In the third line of his opening statement, Mr. O'Brien referred to allegations of abuse and neglect "of the most egregious nature". Thanks to a number of...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: That is not really what I asked. Mr. O'Brien has made statements to this committee in which he referred to failings and neglect. What is he talking about there? I want him to describe the neglect he referred to in writing. What is he apologising for?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Mr. O'Brien is apologising to 46 or 47 different individuals; it is not just Grace. Why did he feel it necessary to apologise to everyone?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Who made the decision to leave Grace in the foster home?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Let us stick with the individuals who made that decision. It is probably a good example. Mr. O'Brien is probably aware of comments that Ministers have made in recent days on individuals who made the mistakes about which we are speaking and who were responsible, in large part, for the neglect, poor care and, potentially, the very serious sexual abuse that occurred or is alleged. To cut to...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Is Mr. O'Brien sure all of them are not in public service? Is he absolutely sure about that?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: That is not what Mr. O'Brien said. I am not talking about that specific decision. I am talking about people in the HSE and the health boards who were involved in the foster home and decisions about the foster home. They are still in public service. Is this correct?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: No, answer that question. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: I am saying it is not sufficient. I am saying this has gone on for 30 years. We talk about the circumstances of Ann, in particular, in 2013 and maybe before then. Considering that we are talking about a current situation and that very serious issues were raised in the early 1990s, Mr. O'Brien's answer is not sufficient. He cannot stand over what he just said with regard to the means of...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Hang on a second. What is preventing Mr. O'Brien from picking up the phone and calling the individuals who were in charge at the time and who are still within his organisation? Has he done that?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: I am not talking about the evidence. I am talking about Mr. O'Brien, as the CEO or director general of the HSE, picking up the phone and asking the individuals what happened. He is not prevented by law from asking them what happened. He is not prevented by law from asking the people around him why, in the first instance, he was not told about the issues associated with Ann being in the...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: That is the problem and the world is going to have to change. It is not tolerable any longer. It is not acceptable.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: It is not going to wash any longer.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Mr. O'Brien has been in to this committee on quite a few occasions and I am afraid that I have come to the conclusion that he is hiding behind these reports. He is hiding behind the Garda investigation and-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

John Deasy: Perhaps I will change the subject here Chairman. If this is basically going to be the stonewall here today, as has been the case in every meeting with Mr. O'Brien at which this issue has been discussed, we are probably not going to get anywhere. With regard to the reports the invocation of one of the health Acts so the Minister and the junior Minister involved can finally request the...

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