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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We have a role as public representatives. Certainly at this committee we have been pretty proactive on a range of measures-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will put it this way: if the witnesses look at our output to date, and considering that some have said we-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Well, we are not a talking shop. We will make a submission. The representatives are not in here just to talk to us; they are in here for us to get a brief so we can then plug into the various bodies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It struck me. I remember the debacle when the TFI stickers were going on. For me, it is about an holistic model. Can we do without the taxis? No, we cannot. At the end of the day, for a myriad of reasons, people under pressure for time will take a taxi, be it in a rural area or an urban one. For someone with a son or daughter out late at night, but particularly a daughter, the taxi...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Waldron made a good point. If we are promoting EVs for the taxi industry, we have to have some sort of quota priority system. That needs to be examined also. We will push on that. I do not want to keep the witnesses too long. Does Deputy Ó Murchú wish to come back in briefly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: At this moment in time is there anyone from any representative group on the TAC?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: How are those taxi drivers appointed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: A committee member has arrived now and I want to let him in. We must be out of the committee room by 4.30 p.m. regardless.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: At least we have done something constructive. It was worth the witnesses' while coming in for that alone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It would be remiss of me not to bring this up. Someone referred to it earlier. Since Covid, first, people have left the sector and, second, there does not appear to be as many drivers going out at night and in the early mornings. Whether it is right or wrong, taxis are at this moment in time the public transport vehicle for people after probably 12 midnight - not everywhere but in many...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: How do we get to a point where more taxi drivers will provide a late-night service? Mr. Cooley stated that trains and buses should also operate late at night but how do we deal with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: No, I am approaching this from the consumer side.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: They want taxis out there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am not saying they are not there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there anything that should be done, whether on infrastructure or whatever else, that would encourage taxi drivers to come out into those late hours?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Waldron would go to that extreme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Who has that function? Is that a function of the local authorities?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is even more than that. The only way to overcome large queues is to have more taxis operating. There will be fewer people queuing if there are more taxis operating. There are a number of factors involved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Given that there are fewer taxi drivers, by definition, there are fewer drivers coming out at all times. Is there an exponential reduction in the number coming out for the late-night gig? Is that a fair comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Issues Impacting the Taxi Industry: Discussion (14 Sep 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Cooley, Mr. McGuinness, Mr. Barrett, Mr. Waldron, Mr. Brennan, Mr. Maguire and Mr. Dempsey, as well as Mr. Egan who was with us earlier, for assisting the committee on this important matter. Mr. Barrett has had to leave as well. We will follow up on this issue with the NTA next week. We look forward to further engagement with the organisations that appeared today. It is very...

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