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Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----because it had to be done on the hoof. There was not time for a procurement process because the State Claims Agency had to get up and running.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: At that time, Mr. Seamus Breen was on the panel.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Did he devil for Mr. Healy?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Healy was dealing with the thalidomide case. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: He took silk and moved up. On the date on which that happened, had the new panel been procured?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: No. When Mr. Healy silked up or whatever the phrase is, is it correct that at that stage the procured panel was in place?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I do not know. On what date was the panel procured?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: On what date was Mr. Seamus Breen appointed?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is something the witness may wish to clarify. I have no doubt Mr. Seamus Breen is eminently qualified and doing a fantastic job. The witness stated that Mr. Seamus Breen works for the Attorney General and others and that is fine. While researching for this meeting, it was suggested to me that, from a governance perspective, the ad hocpanel, for want of a better expression, expired once...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: If the information is not available to us today, I would like it to be made available. What I am interested in is finding out whether the assessment criteria employed in 1975 by the then board are precisely equivalent to those used in Sweden. If they are not, we are not comparing like with like. That would be an issue because, assuming everybody is alive, all 105 cases would possibly need...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: How much have they been paid so far?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would they in turn pay the barristers? Is that how it works?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In that case, the barristers have not received a penny.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I will move on to a completely different issue. While I appreciate-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: No. I would like more detail. People of a certain age have a full driver's licence which allows them to drive an articulated truck, but these days we all do a test. This means that people of 80 years of age were grandfathered in, whereas I have to jump through the hoops. I wonder what the position was in 1973 and what it is today. Were they equally robust? If not, given that we are not...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I have no doubt that is the standard today but there are 34 beneficiaries of whatever we are giving and I am guessing that the criteria were different back then. It may have been refined. There is the 1973 version and today's version includes whatever advances have been made since. It is a small number of people and from speaking to some of the them, it is clearly causing significant...

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I know how the replies to parliamentary questions are sometimes phrased. I have no doubt the test in Sweden is the gold standard and that it is the test that should be used but what about the other 33 lucky winners back in 1973?

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I appreciate that it is open to everyone but I doubt the 33 who are already in receipt of it will go over to do the test again. If nine people were excluded then-----

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Six went to Sweden but there are nine in total.

Public Accounts Committee: Matters related to Medical Negligence, Open Disclosure, Cervical Cancer and Thalidomide Litigation (8 Nov 2018)

Marc MacSharry: How many cases related to Pandemrix is the State Claims Agency dealing with?

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