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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is no incentive for the Garda to spend its time collecting money that goes into the central Exchequer. That is something we will come back to. I am not suggesting debt collectors, because that was raised. The point is that, in some regions people, even when they are handed down fines in court, ignore them and the fines are never paid, collected or followed up. That is another...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We had confirmation from the Department of Health a moment ago that there were 16,000 whole-time equivalent agency staff in the HSE right throughout last year. That could involve 40,000 staff at different stages during the year but, in breaking it down to whole-time equivalents, there were 16,000 whole-time equivalent agency staff. It is a significant proportion. It is the same point...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Buckley stated that the meeting between OPW and the owner of the building, Miesian Plaza, is scheduled for early October.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: The meeting is happening in early October. We will give them a few weeks after the meeting to give us a report of the meeting. It has not happened yet. We will note and publish that. The next item is No. 2402 from Mr. John Uhlemann, Department of Finance, on the national finance accounts, copies of which have now been made available to us. The next item, No. 2403, is from Mr. John...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have mentioned the one item of correspondence which I want to deal with. It is No. 2352C from Brian Lynch and Associates, dated 19 July 2019, requesting the committee make inquiries to the Comptroller and Auditor General about the special report of 2017 regarding the provision of school transport. The matters related to the accounts of Bus Éireann, which are not examined by the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy has written his report and is not proposing to add anything further.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is a request which we will note and discuss but I cannot publish it without his consent. The Data Protection Commission will attend in the afternoon.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General has given his definitive answer and that concludes this. It is now on the public record.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the correspondent and ask if he wants to do that. We will not automatically do it without being requested.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: His request is specific to the Comptroller and Auditor General because he had a special report on the cost of school transport, and he had been following this committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: The correspondent will see what happened today in the transcript, if not on the screen. If he feels it is of value, we can forward it to the other committee in due course. That is as far as we can take it today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will cherry-pick a few because we do not have time to get through them all. We have most of the work done but there will be a bit of an overrun to next week. Deputy Murphy had two in mind.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: It deals with the public services card, PSC. The correspondence is from Deputies Murphy and Cullinane and relates to our work programme.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We wrote to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform about the use of the card across other public bodies.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We raised that issue in a small way when the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection was last before the committee. The cost then was €60 million and we included that in our latest periodic report. It is scheduled to come back in shortly after the budget. It is the Department incurring the majority, if not most, of the costs. We can contact it. Ms Dixon will not be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have not dealt with that. It is on today's list, No. 2380C.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: I support doing that. Most Members will be aware that we have met the person concerned. For those who are new to this iissue, this individual made a protected disclosure on certain issues. This was not resolved satisfactorily within the prison service. Through the Department and the Prison Service, the services of a retired judge were requested to do a report. He gave a report that fully...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will leave this matter by politely saying that this is unfair treatment. We are asking the Department to move and bring this to an amicable solution as quickly as possible. We can write legal letters from here to eternity but that will not solve the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will proceed with further work The next item is reports and statements on accounts received: Carbon Fund, clear audit opinion; Pensions Authority, clear audit opinion; Sustainable Energy Authority Ireland, clear audit opinion; Local Government Fund, clear audit opinion; The Gathering Project 2013, clear audit opinion; An Bord Pleanála, clear audit opinion - it is appearing here...

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