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Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Yes.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Not at all.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Let us use Deputy O'Dea as an example. Say we reviewed Deputy O'Dea last week and he was moved from an 85% pension to 100%. The following week's payment will not only reflect the uplift but will also include the backdated payment to 30 March last year. I hope it will put a smile on the Deputy's face to say that it is a rare occasion when we are both on the same page when I say to a much...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Deputy Brady and I have different views on that so I will not rehash that argument with him today. There is something odd in relation to the next query raised by the Deputy. The same circular on training, policies and management protocols exists in every single office that we have around the country. I was in the Clondalkin office some weeks ago. A young woman works there who has been...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: I might send Maynooth a little note today to ask if it has any expectation as to when it will be ready. If it cannot do that, perhaps we will do something different. I will refer back to the Deputy.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Actually, there was an interim-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: We received the interim report last December and we discussed it here at the committee. The problem is that the interim report's findings are very positive and the Deputy does not agree with them.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: The report was issued in December. It is not the completed report but the interim report finds that it incentivised people to educate and train themselves further, although the Deputy does not subscribe to that. However, I will send a note to see if we can get the final report because we all want the same thing, which is fewer young people unemployed and more people working and training. ...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: The Deputy might have missed that we had formalised discussions with all our GPs and a new contract was negotiated. It gave them a significant increase on the old illness certificate payments. It was probably long overdue insofar as they had not received a different payment for many years. Everybody is using the new forms and we are all happy. In fact, we are in negotiations to move to a...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: The Deputy did not believe me when I said that.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: I jested that the Deputy did not believe me, but I know he did not believe me. I met the Irish Local Development Network, ILDN, just before Christmas. I attended its annual conference and spoke to the members. When anybody issues a report on a person's work and it is not exactly to his or her liking, he or she will be afraid. However, I assured the network then, and I did so previously in...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: I will find that out.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Do members make the assumption that the problem with adjudicating on a carer's application is money? Most of the time it is not.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: The medical assessment process is the same for both payments. There is no difference. The Department does not have to figure our income, rent and so forth which is part of the carer's allowance payment, but a great chunk of the delay is the interaction between our medical assessors and the documentation provided by applicants and their doctors with regard to whether the person fulfils the...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: I am sorry to contradict the Deputy but it does not. Our improved figure for carer's allowance has reduced from 19 weeks to 17 weeks. I hope that with the additional staff we have deployed in the last couple of weeks we will continue to see that number fall. It takes 12 weeks for carer's benefit.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: With respect, the medical evidence that must be provided must meet the same threshold. It is not easier for somebody to get carer's benefit from a medical assessment perspective than it is to get carer's allowance. I would be loath to have a situation where people with contributions get dealt with more quickly than others. It is not something we should ever have. We should improve both...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: It could be argued that all the cases are time dependent. A person does not apply to care for somebody unless the care is needed.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: What I was going to say is that if somebody is waiting to be discharged out of a hospital maybe we should have a fast track, but then everybody would want to be on the fast track.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: Let me have a look. What I would hate to do is to have a two-tier system where we would be treating people differently-----

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 37 - Employment Affairs and Social Protection (Revised)
(27 Mar 2019)

Regina Doherty: -----but maybe there is a way around it. Let us have a look.

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