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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: While it is a matter for the Minister of State, my view is that none of the amendments to this section should be passed at this stage on the basis that she has agreed to table a comprehensive amendment on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I, too, oppose the amendment on the basis that all amendments to the section should be withdrawn.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I suggest that the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel take account of all the comments made on the proposed amendments, including Government amendments. I ask that we be shown a draft of a new section 22 before Report Stage. The parties could then agree to support the section and avoid any hassle.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 25:In page 19, line 34, after "with" to insert "students, staff,".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 27:In page 19, line 34, after "professions" to insert ", the Irish language, cultural, artistic community".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 28:In page 19, line 40, after "stakeholders" to insert "with due regard to the opportunities presented by basic research for scientific discovery".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 30:In page 20, line 11, after "subsection (4)" to insert "and section 23".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 36:In page 20, line 29 to delete "and social" and substitute ", social, scientific and technological".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 42:In page 22, line 12, after “staff” to insert “, or a student”. This is an important section on academic freedom and my amendment seeks to include students. If the Minister of State believes students should not be included, I am willing to hear the case. The case has been made by the students’ unions that they need this provision....

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I accept the Minister of State's response. It would be a bit odd if the Universities Act was different in this regard and I see the Minister of State’s point. I do not see the need for the amendment. If someone can point me to international examples between now and Report Stage I will reconsider, but the Minister of State has made a convincing case.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Trinity College and, perhaps, the institutes of technology, have policies on academic freedom which go into some detail on the issues of students responsibilities and rights and also the fact that postgraduate students inevitably will have more rights than other students. In my view, it is too complex to provide for this in legislation. I do not know if it is stated anywhere in legislation...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: There is a vote in the Dáil.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I agree that term limits should apply to the presidents of these institutions. Some people have suggested that the limit should be seven years. This amendment proposes a limit of ten years. I think there are good reasons for this proposal. Term limits are standard practice in the original universities. I think the Provost of Trinity College has a term of ten years, which is considered to...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I am sorry.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Okay. We will come back to the matter on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 58:In page 25, between lines 25 and 26, to insert the following:"(c) in making regulations under section 28(2)the governing body shall have regard to the objective that at least 40 per cent of members of the academic council shall be women and at least 40 per cent shall be men.".

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I acknowledge that the Minister of State's amendment No. 65 goes some way towards dealing with the issue. I have raised some of the points relating to this matter previously. The word "community" is in there somewhere as well. The point is that the plans of the technological university, TU, to provide programmes of education and training should meet the needs of citizens - Deputy Burton...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I move amendment No. 64:In page 27, between lines 20 and 21, to insert the following:“(d) the plans of the technological university to provide programmes of education and training that meet the needs of citizens, business, enterprise, the professions, the community and other stakeholders in the region in which the campuses of the technological university are located, (e) the plans of...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: How does the position on borrowing for a TU compare with the current position? At present, there is an unsatisfactory arrangement in that, under the fiscal rules, the institutes of technology cannot borrow for, say, housing, whereas the universities can and this is holding the institutes back.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (15 Nov 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Will there be a difference?

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