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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I could have done the two hours by myself.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I cannot let that comment go, I am afraid. The decision to close Owenacurra was appalling and it is even more appalling to hear the HSE doubling down on what was a wrong decision. What we have heard about today is a decision with no clinical oversight and one that was probably put in train in 2012 in terms of deciding to run that building into the ground. It is really shocking that the HSE...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I asked three specific questions and I am wondering if I can get an answer to them.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I will give Mr. Fitzgerald an overview. What consultation has the HSE had with Garnish House residents about their ultimate placements? Had the HSE informed residents of these plans before the details were released in a parliamentary question response to me? How has the HSE been dealing with the Owenacurra residents who it has been telling for the last year and a half are going to go to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: These are vulnerable people. Can Mr. Fitzgerald define what he means when he says they understood? What was the consultation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021
(29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: In what format?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: In the session this morning we dealt with the HSE. I have been contacted during the lunch break by someone who has indicated that some of the answers given - while I am not saying they were lies, were less than representative of the truth. I refer to the issue of whether the HSE had contacted families from Garnish House. Families say they have not been contacted. As a relatively new...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Can the committee take any action if it is obvious or transparent that the answer was incorrect?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That is great.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We can take it from there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Thank you, Chairman.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Some. I could not answer for every single person involved. That also would not be a fair reflection of the truth.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Deputy Catherine Murphy has covered most of what I had planned to raise in this regard. I knew it had gone ahead with no formal business case in place. Could we ask the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform if it is standard operating procedure to make a major decision in terms of signing off on contracts with no business case? Could we ask it what its standard operating procedure in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The Chairman is taking that to mean that it is okay to have no business case.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I would like the Department to state for the record that it has moved ahead with this project as a standard and that it is happy to do that into the future because this has implications for other major capital projects.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: We were assured at the time of the Vote that the business case was imminent - as in a matter of weeks.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: There are a couple of things to be raised with this. First of all, there is the very dynamic nature of the construction sector at the moment. I am presuming that the society's calculation of those costs is based on the huge level of inflation we are seeing in the construction industry. Second of all, ultimately, this is a function of our move away from local authorities in 2015. There was...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: It was never envisaged to be so centralised, and where we found ourselves in 2022 is an aberration.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (29 Sep 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Can the students realistically look for their levy payments back?

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