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Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (17 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: I share the sentiments expressed by Senator Black and others on the utterly horrific and brutal behaviour of Israeli forces. It was unbelievable to see the footage. The lack of coverage of the incident was also shocking. On International Day against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia, I congratulate Jake Daniels of Blackpool Football Club who recently came out.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (17 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: It takes no small amount of bravery to come out in an industry with thousands of players, some of whom may still be in the closet and fear how they will be treated by supporters, teammates and opponents. He is the first active male professional footballer in England to come out since Justin Fashanu did so 30 years ago. Justin's tragic death has cast a long shadow over professional football....

Seanad: Childcare Provision: Statements (17 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Before I get to the substantive issue of childcare provision, I want to take a moment to comment on the operation of this House. I know we have done this many times of an evening here. It is now 8.15 p.m. and the Seanad is due to sit until 8.30 p.m. tonight. That makes it a very unfriendly working environment for family life. When I began in the Seanad, there was a lot of talk about...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: I welcome our guests and thank them for coming in. I am seeking clarity on an issue. In 2011 the HSE found that the SVHG sought funding for a private development. This came to light through the Committee of Public Accounts. It seems that security for the loan was some form of charge or lien over all of the land there, including the public hospital. The HSE found that while technically no...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Was there interaction with the bank on this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: The bank would have consented to it as well. Okay, that is fine. As the names of the parties involved are very similar, I ask the witnesses to clarify another issue for me. SVHG owns the land and St. Vincent's Holdings is holding the shares. Who is it that the Minister would have to approach to request that the State be given the land? Who exactly is it that he would have to go to or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: It is St. Vincent's Healthcare Group the Minister would have to approach.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Has the Minister made an approach on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: It is St. Vincent's Healthcare Group-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: -----and the Minister who have decided and done that, as Mr. Menton has explained. Will Mr. Menton clarify a point in the significant amount of documentation we have read? I do not have the exact reference written down, so I beg the committee's forgiveness. For the first 20 years, if the land were to be sold at any point, the HSE would have first refusal. That is written into the lease....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: I am still not entirely clear. What does that mean, exactly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: After 30 years it is not required to go to the HSE.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Does Mr. O'Raghallaigh think it is understandable why people are concerned about this? People are taking screeshots of this agreement and sharing them around and losing their minds, to put it politely, about this online. I do not know if this is a normal thing in legal documentation. It is causing a lot of concern to people that the layspeak, if you will, is that in 30 years' time anyone...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Ms Reynolds feels that that charitable purpose is watertight. I am just trying to tease this out because I know there are people listening to this who have raised these concerns, and I am as interested as they are in getting clarity on this. Do the witnesses foresee any situation whereby in 30 years' time, when, it is to be hoped, we will all still be around, this could happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: I appreciate the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: It comes down to a principle. There are people who just believe that the hospital should be State-owned and on State-owned land and that that should be the future of all capital assets invested in by the State. While Mr. Menton says it is an academic exercise and refers to 200 years, we would not be having this conversation if the layout were different. I reiterate that the crux of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: It was mentioned that the Religious Sisters of Charity had sold or transferred their shares and that there was no money-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: Sent off. However one wants to phrase it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: No money was transferred but there was an indemnity for the Religious Sisters of Charity. Will Mr. Menton explain what that indemnity involves? Is the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group guaranteeing that it will continue to offer the suite of services that it currently offers on the site? The whole reason for the move is that there will be co-location and everything will be offered. Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Annie Hoey: I ask our guests to deal with the issue of the indemnity as well.

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