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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I thank the Deputies for their comments and observations. I appreciate and accept how worried the committee is about the future of forestry. It is not only the future of the sector but certainly the future of us meeting targets and dealing with our climate ambitions. Everyone is concerned about it and certainly, the recent comments of Ms Marie Donnelly in terms of how we are reaching our...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I hope we can meet that target as soon as possible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Obviously, it is something we all want to reach. I like to think that perhaps the small-scale legislation might enable farmers to dip their feet into planting trees without going the whole hog of having a plantation because the big issue is that farmers see they are taking land out of use on the farm. Those will all add up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I certainly like to think so. Otherwise, we will have failed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Okay. Finally-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I am sorry for taking too long. On the ash dieback scheme, it is something that keeps arising. We have people engaging with the reconstitution and underplanting scheme, RUS.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: That is fair enough, but we have people engaging with that. One can compare it with tuberculosis, TB, compensation. In that case the farmer is compensated for the removal of the animal and the value of the animal, but that is it. The scheme does not compensate the farmer for all the calves the cow may have had or the milk she might have produced so-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Is that not factored into the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: In a long-term sense, I thought it was just that, but perhaps I am corrected-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Yes, if he or she is restricted.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Okay. Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I cannot give a definitive amount because ultimately it depends on the number of afforestation licences we get in from farmers. That is the biggest thing. Even the area for which licences came in last year, and I do not have those figures, falls short. The licences to plant that came in last year were well short of the 8,000 ha. Even if we issued every afforestation licence last year, we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: That does not help, but there is also the issue that there are approximately 5,000 ha already licensed in the past year or so where landowners and farmers are sitting on a licence. My Department has written to those individuals to find out what the issue is, whether we can help them and to ask why they are not planting. The Senator is right about confidence, and we need to work collectively...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: In the levels?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Does the Deputy mean issued or planted?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: It was 2020.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Nobody is denying that we-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: Yes, progress has been made.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: It is progress in terms of what our projections are and in terms of how we have moved resources and will move more resources into afforestation. We can look at blunt figures and pick one quarter against another quarter, but I believe we must look at the bigger picture. Our projections are for the year. Perhaps in future we need to break it down month-by-month or week-by-week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Afforestation and the Forestry Sector: Discussion (13 Apr 2022)

Pippa Hackett: I understand it is three or four.

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