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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Only approximately 50% of A Vision for Change has been implemented. How many years is it since it was published?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am aware that it is being reviewed. It is a review of a review of a review. I am curious about the thousands of reports. There was a magnificent cognitive psychiatry piece on the recruitment and retention of clinical staff. I do not suppose there is an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: How long has this been going on? Ms O'Connor is putting a positive spin on it. She says that the HSE is looking at it and things are about to be implemented. We need to know when that will happen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We do not know where the money is being spent in some areas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We are looking for the CAMHS spending down to the last penny.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We find that a little bit-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We would not be if Mr. Sullivan could tell us how he spent the €70 and came back with a receipt. I am sorry, Mr. Sullivan, but this is a pointless argument because we have asked this question over and over. Deputy Browne wants to ask a question now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: With a new director general coming in, are there going to be more changes? Is he or she going to adopt and accept this new structure or will there be more changes?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Mr. Sullivan does not know if this new director is going to make any change.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Logic does not always win, though, does it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am going to summarise exactly what we have asked the witnesses to do today, if that is alright. Deputy Neville asked-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Thank you, Deputy. Deputy Neville was looking for an organisational structure chart, and I added that it should include numbers in each section. We will send the witnesses an official request for this. Could they also add the figures for clinical and non-clinical staff out of the whole of the mental health services, sub-divided into the numbers working in HR, finance and some of the other...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Yes. Deputy Neville also asked how the money from development funds went into the improvement of existing services. We will have a very clear request going out formally to the witnesses. I thank them for attending today, especially given the length of time they have been here, and thank them for the very useful information they have given us. It will greatly assist the committee.

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Matters of Public Policy: Discussion with Taoiseach (10 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am the Chair of the Joint Oireachtas Committee of the Future of Mental Health Care. It is the first mental health committee in the history of the State and it is probably the first committee in Europe on mental health. I thank the Taoiseach for agreeing to forming it. We have fallen into a funny situation as a committee. We have identified some of the really serious issues concerning...

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Matters of Public Policy: Discussion with Taoiseach (10 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am sorry, but I have something else to say. We spoke earlier about how Seán Lemass was progressive. I really believe the Taoiseach is progressive too. He needs to ask hard questions and take a hard look at broken and cancerous systems. The lack of urgency being shown by the HSE in looking at mental health services for children is very worrying. Such services are not on the cliff -...

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Matters of Public Policy: Discussion with Taoiseach (10 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: It depends on who leads it.

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Matters of Public Policy: Discussion with Taoiseach (10 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services: Discussion (Resumed) (9 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I welcome Professor Frank Murray, Director, and Mr. Andrew Condon, medical workforce lead in the national doctors training and planning division, HSE. On behalf of the committee, I thank them for their attendance. The format of the meeting is that the witnesses will be invited to make a brief opening statement and this will be followed by a question and answers session. Before we begin...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services: Discussion (Resumed) (9 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services: Discussion (Resumed) (9 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Professor Murray should proceed.

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