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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Yes, exactly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: In fairness to the Senator, he is looking for a general list-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: -----of the kinds of activities, not of the actual people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: I have a podcast question, which is a big issue for me considering the amount of driving I do. Transparency regarding retirement at 66 or 67 is also something the witnesses really need to reflect on. I go back to this famous news production, which has really annoyed a lot of people. Are the camera crew and technicians from inside or outside the organisation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Outside. To the general public, that is bananas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: I am sorry. Questions first, if Mr. Bakhurst does not mind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: It is bananas to the general public, and I will say why. We are around here long enough to know there are production teams for demos and ads within RTÉ. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Wait a second. I think there was also a creative management group of three people brought in around 2019 or 2020. Let us just say there is a group of people who do this work and have done it in the past. The general public, who I am reflecting because that is my job, think it is bananas because if there are people inside who can do this work, why is it not being done inside? That is my...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: RTÉ has the capacity; it just does not have the people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: They do not have time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: The production of this could not be done in-house.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Well people have different views-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: In the middle of a GAA season, I am listening to podcasts from all of RTÉ’s competitors and I am not listening to RTÉ. I do not think Deputy Cleere or anybody else mad into the GAA and other sports is either.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: I know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: I am not going to get personal. The retirement at 66 or 67 is the last thing before we close off the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: It is more how they are enacted rather than what they say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: That was an extensive session. I thank the witnesses for coming in. That concludes our public business. Once the witnesses have left, we will go into private session to deal with our own business.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: I have a number of other questions but I will not get to them. Mr. O'Rourke gave a statement today. According to the Secretary General's statement, "As you will hear from the Director General today, RTÉ are continuing to deliver on its new Strategy", etc. Were the RTÉ statements given to the Department beforehand?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Deputy Byrne has made his point. He does not need an answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Alan Kelly: Surely Mr. Bakhurst can give us the information into the future.

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