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Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: One hears the same kind of argument in respect of the issue to which I refer, namely, that if we regulate the position, make everything legal and create an industry, this will somehow make it woman centred. We are starting to win the argument to the effect that it is not woman centred. When one regulates something, very often what one is doing is endorsing it and creating a demand in...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: What the Minister is failing to do is to acknowledge any of the best research which goes to show that there is a particular social benefit associated with children being brought up in marriage. I am in no way being judgmental in respect of other people in this regard. On many occasions I have referred to the heroism of long parents, in particular. We also acknowledge, however, that many...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 8: In page 14, line 4, to delete "18 years" and substitute "21 years".The amendment seeks to require that a person would have attained at least the age of 21 years instead of 18 years before consenting to the use of his or her gamete. It is connected with amendment No. 9 which would require the certification that counselling has been received by the person in regard to...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I am disappointed. We are not getting anywhere. That is almost word for word the same response as we received on Committee Stage.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: We have not had any satisfactory answers that have in any way engaged with the seriousness of the amendments.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 9: In page 14, between lines 6 and 7, to insert the following:"(d) provides appropriate documentation certifying that they have received independent counselling on the implications of donating his or her gamete(s).".

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 11: In page 15, line 17, to delete “desirable” and substitute “mandatory”.This is the amendment that relates to the interaction between the operator of a donation facility and a gamete donor whose gamete shall be used. The operator should inform the donor that instead of it being desirable that it keep updated information on the register, it...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: It is ironic that the Minister should use the word "perverse" in terms of identifying the potential consequences because, of course, what is perverse running all through this is the complete lack of regard for the child's rights in the whole story. Clearly the intent of the Bill is to place the minimum imposition on Lars from Denmark or whoever it is that may provide the donor gamete or,...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 24: In page 23, line 30, to delete "any".This amendment was discussed on Committee Stage. In the event of legal costs I suggested to the Minister there was no need for the word "any". Perhaps the Minister would share with us again her intriguing reason there was no need for the word "any" before travel costs and medical expenses but there was a need for it before legal...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: Yes. It think it could have been better phrased had the Minister specified legal or counselling costs arising in the context of this particular transaction.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 34: In page 27, between lines 23 and 24, to insert the following:“(f) any inheritable diseases and/or conditions which are part of his or her medical history.”.This amendment relates to the acquisition of gametes or embryos by the operator of a DAHR facility. The section will require them when acquiring donor gametes to acquire the information specified in...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: I move amendment No. 37: In page 27, to delete lines 28 to 35, and in page 28, to delete lines 1 to 16 and substitute the following:"(2) A person shall not perform a DAHR procedure other than on the request of intending parents who are legally married to one another. (3) A person shall not perform a DAHR procedure on the request of the intending parents unless—(a) he or she has first...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: That is a separate question. To be assistance to the Senator, perhaps the logic is that if one does not succeed with A, one asks for B and if one does not succeed with B, one asks for C.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: Why is the Senator speaking? Is he seconding my amendment?

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: It is very interesting that the Minister made reference to the constitutionally recognised marital family and proceeded to state the amendment went completely against the spirit of the legislation. It does go against the spirit of the legislation because the latter is all wrong from the point of view of respecting children's rights. I wonder, however, whether it goes against the spirit of...

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: This is not about discrimination against children.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: This is not about discriminating against children.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: That relates to AHR, not DAHR. Is that correct?

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: There is a significant difference in this regard. We are not discussing AHR in this instance.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Rónán Mullen: The child does have a right to a family life.

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