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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is it a precautionary move from the Department's point of view or is it a move that it thinks is correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is only required in a few instances. For example, the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport requires it in respect of driving licences and it is also required of first-time applicants for passports who are over 18 years of age. The Government seems to be willing to take on the Department, if Mr. Fallon does not mind me saying so. On the other hand, the Government is dropping the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is an observation and I am not asking him to comment. Are there service level agreements or other agreements in place between the Department, which will be taking the lead on this, and its European counterparts? Ireland is fighting the Apple case and, regardless of who wins or loses, it is a moot point as to who will get to divvy up the money. It will not necessarily all come to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Obviously Ms Dixon attends the key ones, but some of her staff-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: If there are 100 meetings, it is not just Ms Dixon herself.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: We would like her here some of the time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can it take prosecutions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is all great. However, if the Irish DPC has to take a prosecution against one of the major social media companies, does it have to carry the cost of that? There could be a benefit for all EU citizens. I saw a case reported yesterday where Ms Dixon's colleague in France had a case against Facebook about the right to be forgotten. There are two sides to it. First, it succeeded but it...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Was it Google? I forget which it was.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Do I get the gist that Ms Dixon does not have an issue with the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection using the public services card because it was all set up to draw benefits and everything like that? It is when other agencies or organisations are using it not for the purpose of social protection. Am I oversimplifying it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: The first finding refers to a person "claiming, presenting for or receiving a benefit".

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does that cover the Student Universal Support Ireland, SUSI, grant or is it confined to the Department? It was not clear from the recommendation. I would consider receipt of a grant to be receiving a benefit. Is SUSI getting the go-ahead under that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: This relates to the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: As such, it does not cover people getting grants. We will discuss the response of the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection when its representatives appear before the committee. I cannot ask Ms Dixon to comment on the Department's response, on which we will have a significant number of questions to put to its officials. Ms Dixon may be surprised by two other issues. She...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Ms Dixon gets the story I told.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Iarnród Éireann used that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. McCarthy explain that again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner (26 Sep 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that the way it works?

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