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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: There has been much talk about player welfare. I hope this is an area that the national lottery plans to improve, based on the responses earlier. If player welfare is a serious consideration, then this aspect needs to be quantifiable. We are the Committee of Public Accounts and this is how we deal with things. We must be able to assess whether an agency or company we are dealing with is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Those were the figures for 2021. I presume the national lottery expects this level to increase.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Regarding online purchases, is there a limit on the number of tickets individuals can buy in this way?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What are those limits?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: If someone was spending €900 in a month, would a red flag be raised? How would this kind of situation be dealt with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What is AB testing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What happens if somebody does not reduce such activity?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: For the most recent period covered by the company's figures, how many people were contacted by phone? Does Mr. Algeo have the figures for 2021?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Let us to go the other extreme. How many people would have had their accounts cut off essentially?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I am asking Mr. Algeo to share it with us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Why? It could hardly be described as commercially sensitive.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Does it have to be published that 90% of the national lottery's money goes back into the community?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I know it is published. I see it every time I turn on the television. What I am saying is that there is no legal obligation on PLI to publish that. Here is another piece of information that would be useful to show the national lottery's bona fides in terms of player protection - saying that "X" number of people were cut off from its website because of concerns about their welfare. That...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Is it fair to say that there is nothing in that legislation that prevents PLI from making that public?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: It gives PLI the right but it does not place an obligation on it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: We have had a meeting with the regulator. That is the same as not publishing it at all as far as I am concerned. Can someone purchase tickets on the national lottery website with a credit card?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Red C contacted my office on a number of occasions about the survey. Thankfully, my staff decided I had better things to do than taking the call. I understand that PLI sought to have some parts of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report redacted. Is that true?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: PLI wanted to prevent the public from knowing about one of the key issues that has been of public concern and concern to this committee

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: This is spend relating to money allocated for prize funds that PLI advertised to all and sundry was going back into the community when in fact it was not but was instead being used to make those same advertisements.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: No, it is not. The State, through a very stupid Government decision, privatised the company and created it through a licence structure that put in place a legal provision, in a law passed by the Oireachtas, which stated there was a proviso under which unclaimed prize funds can be spent. It also stipulated that some part of that money must go towards topping up prizes. That is not the case...

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