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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: It has been ruled out of order.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I will respond first to Deputy Boyd Barrett because his amendment was put forward, then to Deputy Bacik and other Deputies. In regard to multiple applications clogging up the system, Deputy Boyd Barrett's amendment does not restrict the duration. For example, if the planning permission was for two years and could be extended by another two years, it does not preclude further extensions....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: It is not ten years we are setting it at but five years.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: There is an option or opportunity to go for another five years, should a permission have commenced. Ten years is not the standard. Five years is the standard, as is the current practice.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: There will be a separate Bill.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I used it as an example of a large infrastructural project that I take it we are all agreed on the need for it to happen. That could take 15 years to build once it is granted. The permission is granted for the period of time that it needs to be built. If we speak to section 164(3)(a) on which the question was asked and which Deputy Bacik's amendment was said not to affect, something like...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: The phasing plans operate within the time period as well.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: You could. I did not answer Deputy O'Callaghan's question about who decides the permissions. The planning authority would decide on the basis of the scale of the project if it would require a ten-year permission. The planning authorities responsible and the planning professionals in the local authorities would be the ones to decide. A ten-house development, for argument's sake, is not...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Deputy O'Callaghan mentioned subsection (3)(a).

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: If the Deputy looks at large developments that go straight to the local authorities, subsection (3)(a) would be affected. The three-year permission would be-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: If we take another example, such as Intel that went to Kildare County Council, it is covered under subsection (3)(a).

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Deputy Bacik can speak for Deputy Bacik-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: -----and she can make those points. All I was saying, in trying to be helpful-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Lean ar aghaidh.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: To answer the Deputy's question, it has been used. I cannot tell him the number of times it has been used. This would be for housing developments in the thousands effectively, where there is phasing. As the Cathaoirleach mentioned in his comments, the phasing has to be included within the permission period.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: Exactly.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: That is the type of thing. It is appropriate to leave it to the planning authority in that area to make that decision. As I said, if you are building out, you have to build out within the permission period.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: I agree.

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