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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I thank the witnesses for their attendance. As the Chair said, we are on a tight lock. I would appreciate it if we could try to keep the exchanges as brief as possible. Mr. Watt mentioned that 15,000 parliamentary questions were submitted to his Department. Just as a matter of interest, of those, how many were deemed to be operational matters and not actually answered by the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I asked out of only my curiosity.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I want to talk about some of the issues that have been prominent in public discourse over recent weeks. As for the issue of people in institutional care homes who were denied their disabled person's maintenance allowance or disability allowance after their first eight weeks of care, from and until precisely what years did that practice continue?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Let me then try to be more specific in my question. In respect of each of the periods, does Mr. Watt’s detailed note suggest the numbers of people affected?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I saw the estimate of 12,000 and the report of the secret 2009 memo that advised the Government against conducting a trawl of HSE records, as it could result in media attention. Considering that there is now clearly media attention on the matter, is that trawl and full in-depth review of the numbers of cases going to be conducted or has that commenced?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I will come to that. On this specific issue, has the Minister asked for that particular trawl to take place?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: The Taoiseach has pre-empted that discussion in some ways. He said that the Government does not have a leg to stand on in respect of the legal cases in respect of this particular aspect. Would Mr. Watt agree with him?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: When Mr. Watt said the matter is being examined by the Department, does that include analysing precisely how many people were impacted and what their financial loss was as a result of the Government operating ultra vires, which is a way of saying it operated illegally?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Mr. Watt has not been instructed by Government to start putting in place the process of identifying and fully compensating all of those people who might have been-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I raised an issue with the HSE last week in respect of a third strand of the nursing homes issue. Essentially, we had the public nursing homes, which fell as neatly as possible within the repayment scheme, as it was envisaged. There were the private nursing homes, where, of course, there are many deliberations. There was then a third strand, which are long-term facilities for people with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Precisely. Do we know-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: Can I just clarify this? We know why many people either did not apply or applied and did not appeal. We know that from the secret 2011 memo that was circulated. It stated very clearly why they did not. It stated that it was probably on the basis from the HSE that the payments did not come within the definition of the recoverable health charges. The Government conceded that 500 people who...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: We know that there were thousands of others who, therefore, would have. Can anybody tell me what was done in respect of that? The issue was raised with the HSE last week very prominently. I do not accept that the answer is not available.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: What exactly is the HSE looking into? We know that there were three homes where appeals were made. We know that there were similar, if not identical, other homes all over the State. Is the work the HSE is currently doing involving identifying all of those other institutions, finding out who among them applied and who among them did not apply on the basis of advice from the HSE?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: I was told last week that people would revert to me, but we have not received further information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: No. Absolutely not. I was looking for the information on the day. We were of the view that it would be received by today.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: We know from the 2011 memo. This is not new information that was brought to the Department in the past week. It was well known across the Department that there was a potential outlay of €360 million. That figure had to be identified somewhere. It was identified because someone assessed the number of institutions concerned. Does Mr. Watt have available for us today that information...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: As a matter of interest, has the Minister asked the Department to carry out this work in the past week or so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Matt Carthy: No. Just deal with this specific issue. These are people with disabilities who were in long-term residential care and who should have fallen under the remit of the repayment scheme. The scheme's appeals officer accepted that. The Government technically accepted it because it withdrew its appeal to the High Court and paid approximately 500 people. There is a serious question, one that has...