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Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: I see.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: To a certain extent, this is a theoretical exercise. I do not believe for a second that the Minister of State is going to accept a single amendment from this House. She is smiling so I am obviously right. It is a theoretical exercise. We are setting out the arguments but I hope they will be taken up in the other House. Senator Ruane has demonstrated a very clear reason for the Minister of...

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: If I may interrupt, it is intended that the Minister of State would answer that.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: It is extraordinary that the Minister of State has quoted USI while standing firm against what it stated as contained in the detailed submission I made based on its letter.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Not fully.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Of course, the Minister of State does not.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: He mistakenly voted the right way.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: As far as I know, Trinity College Dublin still retains the titles of "Trinity College Dublin" and "Dublin University". I think it was intended originally that there would be other colleges of Dublin University but the authorities never got around to doing it. There is a good deal of snobbery. People want to call things "universities". Of course, Waterford Institute of Technology should be...

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: The Minister of State gave good reasons for accepting it.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: I never say it.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: The Senator is arguing against her own amendment.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: I am not surprised, given that the Senator has argued against it.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 5:In page 13, lines 24 to 31, to delete all words from and including "functions—" in line 24 down to and including line 31 and substitute the following:"functions promoting an ethos that supports entrepreneurship, creativity, autonomy, innovation, and engaged citizenship,".

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Given that amendment No. 6 is in the name of Senator Grace O'Sullivan, I take it that both of us can speak twice on the amendments.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Yes, I see. She can speak twice.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: I think Senator Grace O'Sullivan should also have the right of reply.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: When Senator Grace O'Sullivan moves amendment No. 6-----

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Will she not be able to reply?

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: That is rather silly.

Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

David Norris: Is that actually in the rule book?

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