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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: There are 160-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am curious about the process that the Department went through in terms of that contract. Prior to it, local providers were engaged at, for example, vaccination centres during Covid. What was the process by which Aramark-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: The issue would not arise there.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: How long did it take to conclude the contract? What parameters were used that reduced the number to two providers?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: What I am hearing on the ground is concerning. I am curious about the process that the Department went through in assessing not only value for money, but also the range of food that was going to be provided to people who had come here in traumatic circumstances. In this regard, what consideration was given to issues of diet, culture, religion, how long a person might be in the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That was my first question, so if Mr. McCarthy does not mind-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: What were those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is why I am asking Mr. McCarthy this now. I imagine if I was a Ukrainian person there, the last thing I would have the energy to do would be complain about food. I might just absorb it. It is probably appropriate that we proactively ask the questions. It might be helpful if the Department provided the committee with the weekly menu in order that we can see it and for people to have...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Will the Department send that to us?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I ask that it include whether the food is fresh and whether other things had to be purchased to support that. Does the Department know who is doing the catering? Is it an Irish company?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Is there a subcontracting element to the delivery?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: One of the questions that was asked about the provision of services, especially in those centres, was whether any commercial partnerships or donations had been considered in that respect. Is that something the Department considered at any stage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I ask in terms of the process generally. It does not have to be specifically about those two centres. What is the Department's thinking as it approaches these difficult questions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: It exists separately and was not part of the process.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: How long is the contract? Will it be up for review? Is it of an indefinite duration? What is its nature?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: What is an appropriate timeline for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Is that within six months of the awarding of the contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(2 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I understand and appreciate that. What I am interested in is that we can see the parameters of that at an early stage. I do not want the Committee of Public Accounts to have to come back to this in a year when we could have asked these questions now. It is my understanding that the Department will provide us with a sense of the parameters that it put around the contract when it was...

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