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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: To respond to the last question, that is the current law as confirmed by the courts.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: It will not change.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: With respect to Deputy Jack Chambers's question, the amendments serve to transfer the licence to somebody else who is not named and is unknown. If the person is party to the licence initially in the court, for instance, a person may apply to the District Court for a licence authorising the person to promote periodic lotteries in accordance with this Act. That is a different matter.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: The Deputy is correct in that it is for charity or philanthropic purposes. Otherwise it would be for professional purposes and that is not the intention.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: If somebody applies as a licensee for a charity or for charitable purposes, he or she can do that and he or she can get an agent to support him or her, but he or she cannot transfer the licence to the agent.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I draw the Deputy's attention to section 28(3) which reads: (3) In considering an application under this section for a lottery licence, a judge of the District Court shall have regard to the following: (a) the character of the applicant; (b) the number of periodical lotteries already in operation in the locality; (c) the purpose of the lottery. There are various conditions in the...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: The amendments are familiar to me as I have had representations on them. I could agree with amendment Deputy O'Callaghan's amendment up to a point but the Bill also pitches an allowable expenses at a maximum of 25% reduced from 40% of total proceeds in the 1956 Act. Critically the Bill also provides for the first time the amount of the total proceeds that must be allocated to prizes, a...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I have no way of responding to that. I have no research or evidence as to whether a large pay out is necessary, however the Bill provides for 50% which, I contend, is quite substantial. In the past the agent got 40% and only 60% was left. If that was broken down, one would expect the charity to get a fair amount of that. This Bill reduces the amount the agent or promoter can take and...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I thank colleagues for their comments and questions. This matter appears to be raised in almost the same terms by both amendments. As has been said, this was discussed extensively in the Seanad. I note the amendments are the same as the text of a Bill submitted by the national lottery to the Department in 2018 and similar to a Bill tabled by Deputy O'Callaghan at the same time. We spoke...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: It has, however.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: On the final issue raised by Deputy Chambers, I have much sympathy for the points made in this regard. I will communicate them to the Minister for Finance and Public Expenditure and Reform, under whose remit the national lottery falls. I am slow to stand on his toes at this stage, but I will bring the Deputy's points to his attention and ask him to consider them in his overall view. The...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: We have chosen not to go down that route for the reason I outlined. Not every country has such legislation. Some countries have different reasons for doing different things. I outlined why our citizens should be free to place small bets on the outcome of the lotto. All licensed remote bookmakers and betting shops must pay tax on each bet they take as well as paying the current licence...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: There are two elements to the amendment. Subsection (1) states: "The Minister for Justice and Equality shall, not later than 3 months after the commencement of this Act, seek a report regarding the prevalence of gambling on an all-island basis." Subsection (2) states: "The Minister for Justice and Equality shall, not later than 2 years after the commencement of this Act, cause a report to...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: On the issue of gambling addiction, research and treatment, the Department of Justice and Equality does not have the health expertise to deal with treatment. As Deputy Jack Chambers alluded to, we have stepped up by providing funding for research to find out what the issue is. As colleagues know, this Department has as much legislation as the next five Departments put together. We do not,...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I will be anxious to ensure that the next Bill, which will establish a regulator and add many more conditions in respect of gambling, will be reviewed after an appropriate period. The period, be it two, three or five years, is to be decided. Whoever is here at the time can decide on it.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I am in favour of a review after a period. Maybe there should be an ongoing review because it will be so new.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: That would be my intention.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I thank the Minister of State and his officials for attending. I thank all the members. We had full attendance, along with additional Members, which indicates the interest in and importance of this area.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Message to Dáil (10 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 90, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Committee on Justice and Equality has completed its consideration of the Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 and has made no amendments thereto.

Citizens' Assembly on Gender Equality: Motion (9 Jul 2019)

David Stanton: I move:That Dáil Éireann: approves the calling of a Citizens’ Assembly to consider the following matter and to make such recommendations as it sees fit and report to the Houses of the Oireachtas: — to advance gender equality by bringing forward proposals that:— challenge the remaining barriers and social norms and attitudes that facilitate gender...

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