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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I do not know what that means. In trying to get people not to attend EDs, why does the HSE not provide a realistic alternative service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Have the witnesses any idea what the limits are on employing GPs out of hours on a part-time basis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: It is a skeleton service and based on the existing, out-of-date contract.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Why are we talking about out-of-hours companies?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Why is the HSE, as the health authority, not employing GPs to provide out-of-hours services?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Then the HSE has to get national agreement on things. Why does the HSE not just try to recruit GPs to staff out-of-hours services part-time? That way, people would have an alternative to going to their local EDs. It is very regrettable that this has not been pursued seriously. In 2018, the then Minister announced that there would be salaried GPs. There has been zero progress on that. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I would appreciate it if that were pursued seriously.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: The whole purpose of that, however, is just to fulfil an element of the contract, not to actually provide a realistic service, and that contract is very much out of date.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: There is something to be said for the HSE deciding that it will recruit staff to cover out-of-hours services, and I would appreciate it if the HSE were to pursue that. I wish to get back to the issue of workforce planning. We had long discussions on this, as the witnesses will know, with Mr. Reid a number of weeks ago and we were promised a lot of material. We were told there were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I have not seen any evidence of a workforce plan. The HSE talks about recruitment. There is no evidence of it doing a workforce plan to take us through, say, the next five to ten years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: It was promised by Mr. Mulvany's predecessor.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Can Mr. Mulvany provide those figures to us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Who is responsible for workforce planning?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I would appreciate that. If the HSE could also give us the global figures in respect of the winter plan, not the individual plans, arising from its consultation with the EDs-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: The figures as to what the EDs need. The HSE states in the plan that they "will outline" what is needed. Can the HSE tell us-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Has Dr. O'Connor global figures to address the EDs? How many?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Are they contained in the plan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: The plan says they "will outline".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: HSE Winter Plan 2022-2023: HSE (16 Nov 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Can the witnesses just repeat that request for any details of workforce plans they have?

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