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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment declared lost.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment put: The Dáil divided: Tá, 51; Níl, 69; Staon, 0. Tellers: Tá, Deputies Brendan Howlin and Ivana Bacik; Níl, Deputies Hildegarde Naughton and Cormac Devlin.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Tá Chris Andrews, Ivana Bacik, Mick Barry, Cathal Berry, Richard Boyd Barrett, John Brady, Martin Browne, Pat Buckley, Holly Cairns, Seán Canney, Sorca Clarke, Michael Collins, Rose Conway-Walsh, Réada Cronin, Pa Daly, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Mairead Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Gary Gannon, Thomas Gould, Johnny Guirke, Danny Healy-Rae, Michael Healy-Rae, Brendan...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment declared lost.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: The existing wording is "without prejudice to the purpose of an association of representing members".

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Yes but that is not clear.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: It is very clear.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: No, "without prejudice to the purpose of the association" is fine. As the Tánaiste said, that is a catch-all phrase but it has no right. If we look at the prohibited activities of an association under section 2A on page 28, it cannot make a public statement or comment concerning a matter of Government policy. That is black and white, as opposed to the catch-all the Tánaiste is...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: This is Ireland. There are only three degrees of separation, if that, between any of us in this country. In communities where members of the Defence Forces live, everybody knows they are members of the Defence Forces. Government policy may result in an increase in the price of petrol. When they are filling their cars they may comment on the cost of living and the increase in the price of...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: I did not say they would.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: They would never do that. Why did the Tánaiste even mention it? No member of the Defence Forces would do that and risk the lives of their comrades serving in a peacekeeping capacity abroad. I ask the Tánaiste to delete "matter of Government policy". It is insulting to try to silence members of the Defence Forces. As for mentioning attending a protest on Gaza in uniform, come off it.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: What are we trying to do here? We are trying to facilitate association membership of ICTU for the representative associations.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Yes.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: It is positive. This legislation is positive. It is an advance on 1990. It is an advance on the legislation that gave rise to the representative associations. A bit more positivity here is called for. What we are speaking about is being in uniform. That is what the Bill says.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Or making themselves identifiable.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Or making themselves identifiable.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: Deputy Cronin took issue with me using the phrase "in uniform". That is what the Bill says. We are not saying people cannot have views as citizens of the country. Of course they can have views as citizens of the country.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: You are. That is what you are actually saying.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: We are not. If you read the Bill it is very clear with regard to being in uniform or people otherwise making themselves identifiable as members of the permanent Defence Forces. We are trying to preserve the apolitical nature of the Defence Forces. That is what we are trying to do. It is already in Defence Forces regulations, as Deputy Cronin has acknowledged.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: It already is.

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