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Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Mr. Egan. I now invite members to discuss this issue. I remind members participating remotely to use the raise hand feature and to cancel it when they have spoken.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I also have a few questions for Mr. Hession and the team. The child support payment went up €8 and €16, respectively. How many are in receipt of that payment at the moment? What does Mr. Hession think is the difference between that and an additional targeted child benefit payment? What would the difference be? I would say the child support payment is already targeted at the...

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: My question is that the child support payment is already targeted so why go through another process again in relation to another target or another process or version. Is this not already working?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: Perfect. Finally, in terms of benchmarking internationally on child poverty, the Department has a connection with the ESRI but has the Department benchmarked against any other European country in relation to child poverty targets and could the witnesses give us some examples of those?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: Great. Mr. Egan might forward them on to the clerk here who will circulate them.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: We are running out of time. I call Deputy Louise O’Reilly.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I ask Mr. Hession to give a brief answer to this question.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Deputy O’Reilly. I call Deputy Wall.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: We are out of time. I thank the officials for their contributions and for providing the various briefing materials in advance to assist committee members in this deliberation. We will suspend for a few minutes to facilitate the exchange of witnesses.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I will read a note on privilege and housekeeping matters before I begin. Witnesses and members are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make charges against any person or entity by name or in such a way as to make him, her or it identifiable, or otherwise engage in speech that would be regarded as damaging to the good name of a person or...

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Dr. O'Connor. I now invite Ms Bayliss of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul to make her opening remarks.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Ms Bayliss. I now invite members to discuss the topic. I remind those participating remotely to use the raised-hand feature on MS Teams and to cancel it when they have spoken.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: Are these questions to the Society of St. Vincent de Paul or Community Platform?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: Does Dr. O'Connor want to come in on that?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Mr. Ginnell. We will now move on to Deputy Mark Wall.

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: On my own behalf, and as Ms Smith put it, having a child poverty and well-being office in the Department of an Taoiseach should be able to bring all of those agencies together. Whether it is a social protection issue, a health service issue or a Department of justice issue, that office should be able to bring all of that together. I hope that, as a result of that, we will be able to work...

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: What is Dr. O'Connor's view? Does he think we should go with a second-tier, means-tested benefit?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: On Dr. O'Connor's view of the child support payment, could there be an increase in that alone or is he working towards a separate payment?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I am anxious to know a bit more about the enforcement of child maintenance that was mentioned. Have the witnesses discussed it during their meetings with the Departments? I presume the Department of justice is leading out on this. Where are the witnesses with that or what is the situation?

Joint Committee on Social Protection, Rural and Community Development: Child Poverty: Discussion (15 Oct 2025)

John Paul O'Shea: I thank Ms Bayliss and will go back to Deputy O'Reilly.

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