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Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: I am a former apprentice myself. These trainees will not be apprentices. Is that correct?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: What qualification will they have at the end of their training?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: What will be the awarding body?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: That will be at level 7.

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Very good. What will the pay and conditions be?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Is there a plan for the apprentice school in Baldonnel? What will happen to that? It is my understanding it has been operational since 1937 and there is a proud tradition of training apprentices in Baldonnel.

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Okay, so it will not be advertised as an apprenticeship. Will there be an information campaign about that? I have spoken to constituents who are interested in joining the Air Corps or in having their children join as apprentices. Will it be advertised more? It will lead to confusion because some people may wonder whether they are going to become soldiers or aircraft maintenance...

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Of course.

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: There will be 28 coming in the next batch, we hope.

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Do we have enough maintenance staff? Do we need more?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: We were talking about our service commitment scheme. There is one in place now for pilots and we are proposing one for ATC. Would there be any consideration, in the context of retention, to having that service commitment for technical staff as well?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Local bargaining is probably-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Okay, I will come back. I thank the Cathaoirleach.

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: My last question was about the service commitment for technical staff. The Secretary General said local bargaining could possibly be considered in that regard. I note that the GOC mentioned we were operating at 50%, or just under 50%, of our strength in terms of maintenance. It was also stated that some maintenance was carried out by external contractors. Maybe we bring our aircraft...

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: On a cadetship. Is it €45,000 after cadets get commissioned? Have the personnel in Spain been commissioned yet?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Are they on a lower wage, then? Are they on €25,000?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Even though they do the military training at the start. They will probably have done what three-star privates have done, but the pay is not reflective of that. That is my understanding of all cadetships, not just the ATC ones. Is the maximum ATC enlistment age 37 or 39?

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Is it attractive for somebody in his or her 30s who might have a mortgage and children to join any cadetship if the pay is less than what it is for a three-star private, even though he or she will have done six months of military training? Might some thought be put into addressing that? My final point, the subject of which was referred to by Senator Craughwell, is on the service...

Committee on Defence and National Security: Recent Air Corps Developments: Discussion (24 Jun 2025)

Catherine Callaghan: Do people bring their pay with them when they move from the Civil Service?

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