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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: We know that all of those have been missed. Mr. Quinn, who is from the Department, is obviously keeping a close eye on this. I ask for his point of view and for those of the Secretary General and the assistant secretary. Is it his assessment and that of the Department that there has been too much risk and that all the risk in terms of timelines and costs has been loaded onto the board,...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is Mr. Quinn identifying flaws in this?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Careful notes are therefore being taken of this so that lessons can be learned for future contracts.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is safe to say that lessons have been learned and flaws have been identified. Substantial flaws have been identified in this contract.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: That is fine. Mr. Quinn might use different language than I do. In terms of the substantial change to the completion date, what does he think the cost implications will be?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will call on Mr. Gunning in a moment, but Mr. Quinn and the departmental officials are monitoring this. That his job, as CEO. What extra costs are we talking about in respect of the substantial completion date?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I wish to ask Mr. Gunning about the figure of €2.24 billion. He stated that the board is using all levers but, to date, it has not been able to use those levers stop the runaway train. Is he in a position to say that this may run beyond the figure of €2.24 for construction, commissioning and having patients and doctors in situ?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: That includes the substantial build. What are the outstanding risks? What are the big retrieving risks Mr. Gunning sees at this point?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: What are numbers two and three?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Are there other factors?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. Gunning foresee technical problems?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: There might be a few of a different nature, but I will come back to them later. I call Deputy Ó Cathasaigh.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I apologise that I missed some of the contributions. use I was speaking in the Dáil, so I apologise if I repeat some questions that were put previously. Deputy Kelly began by citing “Room to Improve”. Unfortunately, a different programme comes to mind here. It is one of the episodes of "Killinaskully" in which the Pat Shortt character is selling concrete frogs. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Regarding that timeline, what is the baseline date? We see it slip and slip. We are now hearing February 2025 for a substantial completion date, which is a difficult date to believe when we do not have a baseline programme. If we are pursuing the contractor for these damages after the fact, what is the baseline against? What was the expected date?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Okay, so we can expect the process after the fact, and probably a contested process after the fact, to seek-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Which will cost time and money, as all of these things do. The last time Mr. Gunning was with us, he was quite sanguine about the number of contractors on site and the substantial completion date we had been given at that time, which has slipped as of this morning. He felt that, through robust engagement with the contractors, he was seeing enough boots on the ground to make that timeline...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Regarding when Mr. Gunning was supplied this, I assume that in preparation for his appearance before the Committee of Public Accounts today, he engaged with the contractors and told them, “We will be answerable to the Oireachtas; please give us updated substantial completion dates,” or whatever it is. When did that process happen? Where my question is going with this is there...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: When was that most recent information provided to Mr. Gunning?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I am stating the obvious but it becomes clear that the relationship between the development board and the contractor is not the one that we would hope for, whereby Mr. Gunning could pick up the phone to somebody and say, “How are you there, Tom? How are things going? What is the latest?” Of course, it has to be a formalised process because of the amount of money we are...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (30 May 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Good. That is better than what was existing in my head, so I am glad Mr. Gunning clarified it.

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