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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Quirke. The comprehensive opening statements for both parties are welcome. There is a sort of standing order in the committee that there is a five-minute opportunity for every member to ask questions and receive answers. If we have time, we will come back for a second round. I will call on members in the following order: Deputies Bruton, Kenny, presumably O'Rourke, Whitmore,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Collins. I throw this open to the EPA, if its representatives have any remarks to make on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: A key component of the strategy, when published, will probably be the capacity to get it up and running effectively without undue delay. I thank Mr. Flynn. I call Deputy Bruton.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: We will have to come back to that question because I have to move to Deputy Kenny, but perhaps our witnesses can bear that question in mind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: Following on from Deputy Kenny's line of questioning, we have talked in this committee about the multiples not selling packs of vegetables ideal for the very point Mr. Flynn has just made: "I need only two of those, one of those and three of those." Everybody knows they are the common ingredients but there does not seem to be any incentive or action by the larger multiples to actually provide...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: Before I bring in Deputy Whitmore, I want to follow up on the point I was making about incentivising the waste collection companies to help their customers to help the planet. Is there sufficient authority within the EPA and the local authorities to properly regulate those collection companies to inform their customers that they are literally making more out of those customers because...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Flynn for that. I thank Mr. Quirke for mentioning the caddies, which I was actually going to ask about. Is there is there any data to show that they are effective and that they are incentivising people to use their brown bins? If there is, would it not be beneficial for us to roll it out on a national basis? We must try to incentivise people to actually use those brown bins...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank the witnesses. I call Deputy Whitmore.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Deputy Whitmore. I will now move to Deputy O’Sullivan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Flynn very much. I have just one follow-up question in the four minutes that remain. I invite Deputy Bruton to please ask a brief question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: It would be very helpful if Mr. Quirke could do so. He might want to ask them to send a note to us via the secretariat. That would be most beneficial. I call Mr. Flynn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I am sorry, Deputy, but we have to move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank everyone very much. That concludes our time for this session. I thank the witnesses both for their attendance and their engagement with the committee. We will suspend for five minutes and resume in public session with our next set of witnesses. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: On behalf of the committee, I welcome the following stakeholders to this resumed meeting. From FoodCloud I welcome Ms Angela Ruttledge, head of public engagement, and Ms Aoibheann O'Brien, co-founder and director of development and innovation; from Food Drink Ireland I welcome Mr. Paul Kelly, director, Ms Linda Stuart-Trainor, deputy director, and Mr. Kevin Maher, environmental...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: Thank you, Mr. Kelly. I call Mr. Gaffey and Dr. McMahon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Dr. McMahon and all our speakers for their opening statements. I call Deputy Bruton.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Mr. Gaffey. I will return to a points I made before Mr. Gaffey joined us. It relates to packaging that could be reduced by making fruits and vegetables available in retailers on a loose basis rather than in pre-packaged lots. The example I gave was some retailers, large multiples in particular, offering stew packs, stir fry packs or similar. Clearly, one element of reducing food...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I take Mr. Maher's point. I understand quite a bit about consumer demand, as it happens. We can safely say that people prefer a certain route but if people's capacity to have their preferred route is removed, they will find a new preferred route, which could be better for the environment and their own pocket. I take Mr. Maher's point, though.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: I thank Dr. McMahon for that. I have one last question on FoodCloud. Ms Ruttledge mentioned multi-annual funding in her opening statement. Obviously she identified a fairly unique gap in the market, which is commendable. Is FoodCloud only applying to the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications? Are there other Departments? What kind of funding are we talking about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Circular Economy in the Food Sector: Discussion (21 May 2024)

Alan Farrell: Does Deputy Bruton wish to contribute?

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