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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: And the director of content is not here.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Was that decision put before the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is Mr. Lynch telling me that in his capacity with someone who is not here – the director of content – he made a decision, which in effect has exposed RTÉ and the taxpayer to hundreds of thousands if not millions in compensation? That is the decision made by him.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: So Mr. Lynch made that decision. What was his rationale? He made the statement also that he has done nothing wrong.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is Mr. Lynch saying now that he did something wrong?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: So Mr. Lynch continues with the statement that Ryan Tubridy has done nothing wrong.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is there a difference? Is Mr. Lynch inferring a difference?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Lynch think when it comes to compensation there will be a difference? Because they will only be interested in the legal element of it. We are back with the question I put to Mr. Lynch. Will he resign over the compensation that will be paid to Ryan Tubridy?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is a binary question. The answer would be "Yes" or "No". Will he resign and make himself accountable for a decision that he can be sure has ruined Ryan Tubridy? He has been taken off the air under the assertion by RTÉ that he has done nothing wrong. Mr. Lynch did not say that he did not do anything illegal. He said he had done nothing wrong. I am sure that will be brought up a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: The decision was made by Mr. Lynch with just one other. I will turn to Ms Ní Raghallaigh. Is she happy that, without a shadow of a doubt, she has been exposed now, as the chair of RTÉ, to compensation? We are all of a frame of mind here commercially that we know the realm of these types of things will run into hundreds of thousands, if not millions. He is not the only person who...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: No-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Excuse me for one second-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: This refers to editorial decision-making. Who is the editorial decision made by? Are we back to Mr. Lynch?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Who is?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is Mr. Lynch at this point in time. Therefore, really, all the bluster that Ms Ní Raghallaigh has come in here with about what she is going to do is only bluster, is it not? The witnesses have exposed RTÉ among them with a massive bill for compensation to someone they assert as having done nothing wrong. They have not just thrown them all under the bus, they have backed over...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: So, Mr. Lynch will resign. He is going to confirm today that he will resign when that happens because as sure as night follows day, that is going to happen.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, Chair, we need to clarify that. Is Mr. Lynch saying he will resign and be accountable?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: Well, then, talk is cheap.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: I want to ask Mr. Robert Shortt on behalf of the good staff, or the ordinary staff, of RTÉ, who are all talented, what he considers to be an appropriate sanction, based on what he is hearing today, or what is going to go on, and the Grant Thornton report. Does he believe he is going to get accountability from this process?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Verona Murphy: What does Mr. Shortt believe it should look like?

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